Re: For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page [v2]

Tycho Andersen
2020-10-26T14:32:25Z

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 03:30:29PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Tycho,
>
> Thanks for getting back to me.
>
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 14:54, Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:55:04AM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > Hi all (and especially Tycho and Sargun),
> > >
> > > Following review comments on the first draft (thanks to Jann, Kees,
> > > Christian and Tycho), I've made a lot of changes to this page.
> > > I've also added a few FIXMEs relating to outstanding API issues.
> > > I'd like a second pass review of the page before I release it.
> > > But also, this mail serves as a way of noting the outstanding API
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > Tycho: I still have an outstanding question for you at [2].
> > > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/8f20d586-9609-ef83-c85a-272e37e684d8@gmail.com/
> >
> > I don't have that thread in my inbox any more, but I can reply here:
> > no, I don't know any users of this info, but I also don't anticipate
> > knowing how people will all use this feature :)
>
> Yes, but my questions were:
>
> [[
> [1] So, I think maybe I now understand what you intended with setting
> POLLOUT: the notification has been received ("read") and now the
> FD can be used to NOTIFY_SEND ("write") a response. Right?
>
> [2] If that's correct, I don't have a problem with it. I just wonder:
> is it useful? IOW: are there situations where the process doing the
> NOTIFY_SEND might want to test for POLLOUT because the it doesn't
> know whether a NOTIFY_RECV has occurred?
> ]]
>
> So, do I understand right in [1]? (The implication from your reply is
> yes, but I want to be sure...)

Yes.

> For [2], my question was not about users, but *use cases*. The
> question I asked myself is: why does the feature exist? Hence my
> question [2] reworded: "when you designed this, did you have in mind
> scenarios here the process doing the NOTIFY_SEND might need to test
> for POLLOUT because it doesn't know whether a NOTIFY_RECV has
> occurred?"

I did not.

Tycho