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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Dave Hansen
	<dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan
	<adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	nick-dnCCA748QAperShJXdIFYw@public.gmane.org,
	Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Checkpoint/restart (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:55:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m163rd1sd5.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080710173246.GA1857-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:32:46 -0500")

"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:

>> So, the checkpoint-as-a-corefile idea sounds good to me, but it
>> definitely leaves a lot of questions about exactly how we'll need to do
>> the restore.
>
> Talking with Dave over irc, I kind of liked the idea of creating a new
> fs/binfmt_cr.c that executes a checkpoint-as-a-coredump file.
>
> One thing I do not like about the checkpoint-as-coredump is that it begs
> us to dump all memory out into the file.  Our plan/hope was to save
> ourselves from writing out most memory by:
>
> 	1. associating a separate swapfile with each container
> 	2. doing a swapfile snapshot at each checkpoint
> 	3. dumping the pte entries (/proc/self/)
>
> If we do checkpoint-as-a-coredump, then we need userspace to coordinate
> a kernel-generated coredump with a user-generated (?) swapfile snapshot.
> But I guess we figure that out later.

Well it is a matter of which VMAs you dump.  For things that are file backed
you need to dump them.

I don't know that even a binfmt for per process level checkpoints is sufficient
but I do know having something of that granularity looks much easier.  Otherwise
it takes a bazillian little syscalls to do things no one else is interested in doing.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080418054459.891481000@bull.net>
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] - v2 - Provide a new procfs interface to set next id Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] - v2 - Provide a new procfs interface to set next upid nr(s) Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] - v2 - IPC: use the target ID specified in procfs Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] - v2 - PID: " Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
     [not found] ` <20080418054459.891481000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-18 17:07   ` [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id Dave Hansen
     [not found]     ` <1208538427.25363.40.camel-FpcvD5N4B9G9xGwK5P7XA+TW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-21 11:32       ` Nadia Derbey
2008-04-22 19:36   ` Checkpoint/restart (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id) Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-23 14:23   ` [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <20080422193612.GA15835@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru>
     [not found]   ` <20080422193612.GA15835-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 18:56     ` Checkpoint/restart (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id) Dave Hansen
     [not found]       ` <1208890580.17117.14.camel-FpcvD5N4B9G9xGwK5P7XA+TW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 19:51         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-22 21:01         ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]       ` <20080422210130.GA15937@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru>
     [not found]         ` <20080422210130.GA15937-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 22:56           ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]         ` <1208904967.17117.51.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
     [not found]           ` <1208904967.17117.51.camel-FpcvD5N4B9G9xGwK5P7XA+TW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23  6:40             ` Kirill Korotaev
     [not found]           ` <480ED9D5.1010906@parallels.com>
     [not found]             ` <480ED9D5.1010906-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 15:33               ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-24  1:19               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <480FE037.2010302-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10  1:58                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <m1y74a7b4w.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                   ` <m1y74a7b4w.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 17:12                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-17 23:09                     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                   ` <1215709949.9398.15.camel@nimitz>
2008-07-10 17:32                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-17 23:14                     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <20080710173246.GA1857@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20080710173246.GA1857-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 18:55                         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <m163rd1sd5.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 19:06                             ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-10 19:21                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <m14p6xy27s.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                 ` <m14p6xy27s.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-10 19:47                                   ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                                 ` <1215719252.9398.53.camel@nimitz>
2008-07-11  0:32                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-07-17 23:19                                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-17 23:16                         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]             ` <1208964798.17117.72.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
     [not found]               ` <1208964798.17117.72.camel-FpcvD5N4B9G9xGwK5P7XA+TW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-24  7:00                 ` Kirill Korotaev
     [not found]               ` <48103002.5090806@parallels.com>
     [not found]                 ` <48103002.5090806-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-24 18:30                   ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                 ` <1209061809.12718.36.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
     [not found]                   ` <1209061809.12718.36.camel-FpcvD5N4B9G9xGwK5P7XA+TW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-24 23:13                     ` Oren Laadan

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