From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
"Denis V. Lunev" <den-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
Pavel Emelianov <xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netns: Delete virtual interfaces during namespace cleanup
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:45:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1fxn839y3.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EB4679.1040602-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Daniel Lezcano's message of "Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:22:33 +0200")
Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Perhaps, I am misunderstanding your sentence :) But just in case, let me clarify
> my idea.
>
> If you have a TCP connection with a send queue not empty (the kernel has
> buffered the data the application has sent), when your process exits because the
> last socket write was done in userspace, the TCP socket will be orphan but still
> there taking a ref count on your network namespace. Hence the process and the
> network namespace life cycles is not correlated. This is a correct behavior, it
> is not a bug.
Agreed, letting the network stack finish sending the last bits of data from
sockets is not a bug.
The problem I see is having a veth device that exists in a child container,
and the application waiting for the child device to return to the current network
namespace. Since we always return network devices to the initial network namespace
waiting for a device in a child container does not work in a recursive container.
And thus is a bug.
> Can a process outside of the network namespace look at this directory even if
> there are no more processes running inside the namespace ?
If you mount it somewhere besides /proc/self/net yes.
Say: mount --bind /proc/self/net /tmp/net
>> That is simple and will work quite nicely in the long term, and gives
>> us a lot more visibility than a simple this namespace has exited bit.
>
> This is nice :)
>
> Shouldn't you send /proc/net filesystem patch before sending the virtual network
> devices autodestroy patch ?
Well there is the cheap trick with this patch of waiting until the local end
of veth dies.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-07 11:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-03 0:39 [PATCH] netns: Delete virtual interfaces during namespace cleanup Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m18wt6v7eb.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-03 0:46 ` [PATCH] net: Support specifying the network namespace upon device creation Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1vdwatshs.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 12:20 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48EB541A.5070306-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 23:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:16 ` [PATCH] netns: Delete virtual interfaces during namespace cleanup Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48EB36FC.4000008-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 10:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1ej2s7kmj.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 11:22 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48EB4679.1040602-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 11:45 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
[not found] ` <m1fxn839y3.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 12:07 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48EB50E4.3060303-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 23:08 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20081007.160807.32968959.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-08 8:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-07 10:52 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <48EB3F72.5090201-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 11:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1d4ic4pbr.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-08 12:34 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <48ECA8D2.4090406-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-05 23:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-05 23:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: Guaranetee the proper ordering of the loopback device Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-05 23:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: Don't leak packets when a netns is going down Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 0:00 ` David Miller
2008-11-06 0:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: Guaranetee the proper ordering of the loopback device David Miller
2008-11-06 13:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 15:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: fib_rules ordering fixes Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-06 15:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Guaranetee the proper ordering of the loopback device. v2 Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-08 6:55 ` David Miller
2008-11-08 6:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: fib_rules ordering fixes David Miller
2008-11-06 21:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: Guaranetee the proper ordering of the loopback device David Miller
2008-11-08 6:53 ` David Miller
2008-11-08 7:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m14p2l4v2l.fsf_-_-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-06 0:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] netns: Delete virtual interfaces during namespace cleanup David Miller
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2008-07-11 20:07 [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
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