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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: design of user namespaces
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:35:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1od5iqcoq.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080630211325.GA27738-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:25 -0500")

"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
>> 
>> The very important points are that it is a remount of an existing mount
>> so that we don't have to worry about corrupted filesystem attacks, and
>> that authentication is performed at mount time.
>
> Conceptually that (making corrupted fs attacks a non-issue) is
> wonderful.  Practically, I may be missing something:  When you say
> remount, it seems you must either mean a bind mount or a remount.  If
> remount, then that will want to change superblock flags.  If the
> child userns(+child mntns) does a real remount, then that will change
> the flags for the parent ns as well, right?
>
> If instead we do a bind mount we don't have that problem, but then the
> fs can't be the one doing the user namespace work.
>
> I'm probably missing something.

Essentially I am creating a new mount operation that is a
cousin of a remount.

Unlike a real remount you can't change the super flags.
Unlike a bind mount you get the fs involved, and you pass in a string of flags
that the fs can interpret in a standard way.

I expect the flags you pass in would be a subset of what is allowed
in a normal remount. 

Which is why I was calling it nativemount.  Although usernsmount
may be better.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-01  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-20  2:01 design of user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <m1zlpg27bv.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-20 14:05   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080620140510.GA21720-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-20 19:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <m1ve04q686.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-20 20:55           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20080620205508.GA8429-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-20 21:47               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20080620214746.GA13123-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-20 23:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m1wskjemda.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-21 19:05                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-20 23:00               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <m1d4mbg1ab.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-30 21:13                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20080630211325.GA27738-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01  7:35                       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <m1od5iqcoq.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-07 15:24                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                             ` <20080707152405.GA11250-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-07 19:25                               ` Eric W. Biederman

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