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From: Ducrot Bruno <ducrot@poupinou.org>
To: Dominik Brodowski <linux@brodo.de>
Cc: cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: speedstep-smi woes
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031118213553.GE32464@poupinou.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031118203455.GA7896@brodo.de>

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:34:55PM +0100, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:09:34PM +0100, Ducrot Bruno wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:20:46PM +0100, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
> > > Under heavy load speedstep-smi generates "cpufreq: change failed" messages
> > > at least on two systems, one of them my own. I've tried to evaluate how to
> > > avoid these failures:
> > > 
> > > - wbinvd() has no positive effect
> > > - disabling bus master arbitration (io-port 0x22 on 440bx) has no positive effect
> > > - mdelay(250) immediately before the asm smi call has resulted in _zero_
> > >   failures.
> > > 
> > > However, in most cases, even under heavy load, the speedstep-smi driver
> > > _does_ achieve speedstep transitions. 
> > > 
> > > So, how to proceed?
> > > a) Try to avoid these failures, even if the cost of all transitions is 250ms
> > >    then? This practically disables dynamic frequency scaling for
> > >    speedstep-smi.
> > > b) Do the same as before: this means that sometimes the frequency isn't
> > >    changed even though the user or the dynamic frequency scaling governor
> > >    demands a higher frequency. Also, the "speedstep_init" step tends to fail
> > >    sometimes.
> > > 
> > 
> > Have you done testing with ide stuff in pio mode?
> 
> No, as I don't want to lose UDMA2. However, it seems to work. Why?
> 
> Also, how do we disable DMA safely during a call to speedstep_smi_set_freq()?
> kernel/dma.c and include/asm/dma.h neither show a way to "disable" DMA like
> it can be done for preempt, irqs, etc. I really don't want to tell users:
> disable DMA if you want to use this speedstep driver...
> 

Well, this much more for debugging purpose and I'm sorry to not be
enough verbose sometimes.  The IDE function in the PIIX4 is known to
be buggy somehow, so I guess the SMI handler for speedstep is aware of
that, probably given up if so.
Remember, Speedstep v1, v2 need bus arbitration, and there
are at least 2 errata for IDE in that matter, someone have even
coded some of those errata in the acpi processor driver IIRC ;)

But others function (like for example USB) may be the cause.  Isolating
what is wrong is good..

I just wanted to check if the IDE was faulty.  To correct this, I have
not enough idea for, but perhaps just checking if the ide hwif is busy
may be enough, that may require though to setup a timer in the code
path of the frequency setup (busy loop is not cheap),
and then there may be some race condition.  I don't know if
actually cpufreq can do that by now.

Cheers,

-- 
Ducrot Bruno

--  Which is worse:  ignorance or apathy?
--  Don't know.  Don't care.

      reply	other threads:[~2003-11-18 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-18 18:20 speedstep-smi woes Dominik Brodowski
2003-11-18 19:09 ` Ducrot Bruno
2003-11-18 20:34   ` Dominik Brodowski
2003-11-18 21:35     ` Ducrot Bruno [this message]

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