From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
davej@codemonkey.org.uk,
Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@commfireservices.com>,
Samuel Masham <samuel.masham@gmail.com>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
cpufreq@lists.linux.org.uk, ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: Status of X86_P4_CLOCKMOD?
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:34:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060228213428.GA31044@isilmar.linta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060228212632.GE13116@waste.org>
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 03:26:32PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > So even if the battery lasts longer, you don't have anything of it, 'cause
> > the CPU can even compute _less_ in this longer time-span. Remember that
> > idling doesn't count...
>
> Which is different from other power-saving modes how? If it means I
> can read my email longer on the plane, it's a power-saving mode.
But you can't... [*]
> > > In short, power usage and heat production are _the same thing_.
> >
> > Yes and no. The heat production is more levelled if you use throttling, so
> > the temperature achieved is lesser, which might cause fans not having to
> > start or air conditioning having less work to do.
>
> The time scale for heat propagation is enough slower than throttling
> that I'd expect this difference to amount to approximately nil.
For short-term load spikes, yes. If your server has a task which takes up
one hour at full time, and the temp reaches 45° C then, but you have nothing
else for it to do overnight, then it does might sense to throttle it to
50%, which will mean two hours, but only 40° C.
Dominik
[*] unless the idling algorithm is broken and does not enter C2-type idle
states.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-28 21:34 UTC|newest]
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2006-02-23 19:59 ` Status of X86_P4_CLOCKMOD? Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 20:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-23 23:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 23:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 23:55 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 2:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-24 2:42 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 17:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 1:57 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 4:24 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-25 12:53 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-27 21:17 ` Wes Felter
2006-02-25 4:27 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 12:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 13:28 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 11:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-26 20:39 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-26 20:55 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 23:37 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 13:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 13:05 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-28 19:46 ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:09 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-28 20:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 20:47 ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:57 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:26 ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 21:34 ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2006-02-28 21:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 22:22 ` Andi Kleen
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