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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: rjw@sisk.pl, swarren@nvidia.com, linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
	patches@linaro.org, cpufreq@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mturquette@linaro.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] ARM: Tegra: Add CPU's OPPs for using cpufreq-cpu0 driver
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:55:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52029811.9080704@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKohpo=MpOyMGFTGeZWmoCRwmZ7+nQtP_yCGokPanEVYL0xbMw@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/07/2013 12:06 PM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 7 August 2013 23:12, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
>> On 08/07/2013 08:46 AM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
>>> cpufreq-cpu0 driver needs OPPs to be present in DT which can be probed by it to
>>> get frequency table. This patch adds OPPs and clock-latency to tegra cpu0 node
>>> for multiple SoCs.
>>>
>>> Voltage levels aren't used until now for tegra and so a flat value which would
>>> eventually be ignored is used to represent voltage.
>>
>> This patch is problematic w.r.t. DT being an ABI.
> 
> :(
> 
>> We can certainly add new optional properties to a DT binding that enable
>> new features. However, a new version of a binding can't require new
>> properties to exist that didn't before, since that means that old DTs
>> won't work with new kernels that require the new properties.
> 
> To be honest I didn't get it completely. You meant operating-points
> wasn't present before? Its here:
> 
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/cpufreq/cpufreq-cpu0.txt
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/opp.txt
> 
> Or you meant, Tegra never required voltage levels and we are getting
> them in here.

The current Tegra *.dts files do not contain this property. The current
Tegra *.dts files must continue to work without modification in future
kernels.

>> As such, I believe we do need some Tegra-specific piece of code that
>> defines these OPP tables in the kernel, so that the operating-points
>> property is not needed.
> 
> Generic cpufreq driver depends on OPP library and so somebody has
> to provide them. Now you can do it by calling opp_add() for each OPP
> you have or otherwise.

Sure. That's what the Tegra-specific cpufreq driver should do. It should
be the top-level cpufreq driver. If parts of the code can be implemented
by library functions or a core parameterizable driver, then presumably
the Tegra driver would simply exist to provide those parameters and/or
callback functions to the generic driver.

> Btw, you must have some specific voltage level for each freq, we can
> get them here..

Yes, I'm sure we do, but I have no idea what they are:-( It may even be
board-specific or SoC-SKU-specific. I think we should defer this aspect
for now.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-07 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 14:46 [PATCH 0/6] Tegra: Use cpufreq-cpu0 driver Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 14:46 ` [PATCH 1/6] clk: Tegra: Add CPU0 clock driver Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 16:44   ` Mike Turquette
2013-08-07 17:38   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-07 17:45     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 17:48       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-07 17:54         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 18:50           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-08  2:42             ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-08 18:50               ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-09  3:19                 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 14:46 ` [PATCH 2/6] ARM: Tegra: Add CPU's OPPs for using cpufreq-cpu0 driver Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 17:42   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-07 18:06     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 18:55       ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-08-08  2:57         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-08 18:55           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-08 13:58         ` Lucas Stach
2013-08-08 14:11           ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-08 14:22             ` Lucas Stach
2013-08-08 14:37               ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-08 15:52                 ` Nishanth Menon
2013-08-07 14:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] ARM: Tegra: Enable OPP library Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 17:43   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-07 18:08     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 14:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] ARM: Tegra: defconfig: select cpufreq-cpu0 driver Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 14:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] ARM: Tegra: start using " Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 17:46   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-07 17:49     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 17:53       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-07 17:59         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 18:51           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-08  2:48             ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 14:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpufreq: Tegra: Remove tegra-cpufreq driver Viresh Kumar
2013-08-08  8:31 ` [PATCH 0/6] Tegra: Use cpufreq-cpu0 driver Richard Zhao
2013-08-08  8:33   ` Viresh Kumar

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