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From: SJ Park <sj@kernel.org>
To: Aveline Noir <jm5905938@gmail.com>
Cc: SJ Park <sj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] DAMON: 32-bit overflow selects wrong sampling interval
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 07:10:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261015141027.88149-1-sj@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANOyQmFkTQMEpR10sxjoB+8XMsk=m9DAJVnyxguwV2LLYCg09A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Avelin,

On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 07:24:08 -0400 Aveline Noir <jm5905938@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In an unmodified i386 QEMU kernel built from mm-new commit
> ad9f2d463666, an intervals goal selected a 2500 us sampling interval
> after the first aggregation.  The same trace inputs give 2812 us with
> full-width arithmetic.
> 
> The kernel has CONFIG_DAMON_VADDR, CONFIG_DAMON_SYSFS, and tracing
> enabled.  The guest monitored a 1 MiB VADDR range as four contiguous
> 256 KiB regions, with sample_us=5000, aggr_us=100000, access_bp=400,
> aggrs=1, and min_sample_us=2500.  The default minimum of 5000 us would
> hide the difference.
> 
> At the first aggregation boundary, the four damos_before_apply records
> for kdamond.0 showed nr_accesses=1,1,1,3.  The next
> damon_monitor_intervals_tune record showed sample_us=2500; sysfs then
> reported sample_us=2500 and aggr_us=50000.  The records cover the same
> four 262144-byte regions before the first tune.
> 
> For that aggregation, the inputs to damon_get_intervals_score() are:
> 
>   max_access_events = 4 * 262144 * 20 = 20971520
>   access_events     = (1 + 1 + 1 + 3) * 262144 = 1572864
> 
> On 32-bit unsigned long, max_access_events * access_bp wraps before
> division by 10000.  This gives a target of 409364, a score of 38422 bp,
> and the observed interval of 2500 us.  With full-width arithmetic, the
> target is 838860, the score is 18750 bp, and the interval is 2812 us.
> The later mult_frac() remainder multiplication does not overflow in the
> observed 32-bit path, so the difference here comes from the target
> multiplication.
> 
> The affected expression is in mm/damon/core.c.  Widening only the
> target product would make the later 32-bit mult_frac() remainder
> multiplication overflow for these same inputs.  The 2812 us result
> requires sufficient width throughout the score calculation.
> 
> The 2500 us interval was measured on the unmodified kernel.  I
> calculated 2812 us from the trace; I have not tested a patched kernel.
> The i386 config, guest init, serial/trace log, and build/run steps:

Could you share more details of your use case that this setup is needed and the
overflow becomes a problem?


Thanks,
SJ

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-15 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-15 11:24 [BUG] DAMON: 32-bit overflow selects wrong sampling interval Aveline Noir
2026-10-15 14:10 ` SJ Park [this message]
2026-10-15 15:36   ` Aveline Noir

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