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From: Marc Chantreux <mc@unistra.fr>
To: dash@vger.kernel.org, busybox@busybox.net, bug-bash@gnu.org,
	Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
Subject: Re: Question on $@ vs $@$@
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 09:14:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zr2qunm18NGdJ_Bx@prometheus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zryv5acNkrImASKj@wooledge.org>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 09:23:49AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> The most obvious would be to treat "$@$@" as if it were "$@" "$@",
> generating exactly two words for each positional parameter.
> 
>     <A> <B> <C> <A> <B> <C>

Thanks for this. My two cents:

if I want "$@" "$@", i write it litterally. "$@$@" kinda tricks me
in that case because it's not consistent with the other cases I already
used ("$foo$@", for exemple).

> If there are *two* instances of $@ within the same word, then the final
> parameter of the *first* $@ is supposed to be "joined with the last
> part of the original word".  But the "last part of the original word"
> is another list expansion, not a string!  What does it even mean for
> the final parameter to be "joined" with a list expansion?

good point: that's ambigious. zsh has the explicit twigil $^ (inspired
by the rc operator, I think) to make the distribution explicit (like a
brace expansion) but as dash lack both those features, I still think
my proposal both more consistent and doing something different.

> So, neither of these results would shock me:
>     <A> <B> <CA B C>    (treat it like "$@$*")
>     <A B CA> <B> <C>    (treat it like "$*$@")

well. "$@" "$@", $@$* and $*$@ are clear syntaxes that proves an intention
so "$@$@" should be another one related to the fact that something is
joined at the boundary. and to me "something" means "anything left between"
(possibly empty).

so: set A B
        "$@ x $@"       =>   "A" "B x A" "B"
        "$@$@"          =>   "A" "BA"    "B"

> I'd still love to know what the script's intent is.

I my guess would be based on "nothing but what the other syntaxes
provides more expicitly".

regards

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-15  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-14  0:45 Question on $@ vs $@$@ Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-08-14  2:17 ` Greg Wooledge
2024-08-14  9:04   ` Marc Chantreux
2024-08-14 13:23     ` Greg Wooledge
2024-08-14 14:51       ` Robert Elz
2024-08-15  7:14       ` Marc Chantreux [this message]
2024-08-14 14:20     ` Robert Elz
2024-08-14 14:58       ` Oğuz
2024-08-14 15:28         ` Greg Wooledge
2024-08-14 15:57 ` Chet Ramey
2024-08-14 20:05   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-08-15 18:48     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-08-15 21:33       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
     [not found] ` <CAALKErGQcz=LS=xC544fXf9OywVmU32s1R-wSKzVTiavQTHZ6Q@mail.gmail.com>
2024-08-27  0:28   ` Steffen Nurpmeso

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