From: Earnestly <zibeon@gmail.com>
To: dash@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Surprising behaviour when reading from a named pipe and standard input
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 10:24:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYsHRFz5kAWkcLSb@teapot> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f13da815-0438-44be-b224-a6f5c5ee4454@gigawatt.nl>
On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 02:00:18AM +0000, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> In bash, <&0 suppresses the implicit </dev/null, meaning the outer
> environment's stdin gets used.
I hoped that dash would do the same, when faced with an explicit use
of <&0, which I try to base on my reading of the standard:
> If, and only if, job control is disabled, the standard input for the
> subshell in which an asynchronous AND-OR list is executed shall
> initially be assigned to an open file description that behaves as if
> /dev/null had been opened for reading only. This initial assignment
> shall be overridden by any explicit redirection of standard input
> within the AND-OR list.
With emphasis on the last sentence.
You write that dash does ultimately interpret this correctly but applies
it too late, after fd 0 is already /dev/null.
Perhaps because this is not merely a no-op (as 0<&0 is) and that dash does
attempt to do the right thing (too late), it suggests maybe dash should
change behaviour.
However you're right about portable shell scripts. I have to accept the
minimal interpretation and your solution is very reasonable, perhaps even
more explicit as well.
Many thanks for your explanation.
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2026-02-10 1:11 Surprising behaviour when reading from a named pipe and standard input Earnestly
2026-02-10 2:00 ` Harald van Dijk
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