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From: Earnestly <zibeon@gmail.com>
To: dash@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Surprising behaviour when reading from a named pipe and standard input
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 10:24:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYsHRFz5kAWkcLSb@teapot> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f13da815-0438-44be-b224-a6f5c5ee4454@gigawatt.nl>

On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 02:00:18AM +0000, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> In bash, <&0 suppresses the implicit </dev/null, meaning the outer
> environment's stdin gets used.

I hoped that dash would do the same, when faced with an explicit use
of <&0, which I try to base on my reading of the standard:

> If, and only if, job control is disabled, the standard input for the
> subshell in which an asynchronous AND-OR list is executed shall
> initially be assigned to an open file description that behaves as if
> /dev/null had been opened for reading only. This initial assignment
> shall be overridden by any explicit redirection of standard input
> within the AND-OR list.

    With emphasis on the last sentence.

You write that dash does ultimately interpret this correctly but applies
it too late, after fd 0 is already /dev/null.

Perhaps because this is not merely a no-op (as 0<&0 is) and that dash does
attempt to do the right thing (too late), it suggests maybe dash should
change behaviour.

However you're right about portable shell scripts. I have to accept the
minimal interpretation and your solution is very reasonable, perhaps even
more explicit as well.

Many thanks for your explanation.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-10 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10  1:11 Surprising behaviour when reading from a named pipe and standard input Earnestly
2026-02-10  2:00 ` Harald van Dijk
2026-02-10 10:24   ` Earnestly [this message]

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