From: Andrea Bittau <a.bittau@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Proposed socket API change
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:48:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060908094841.GA12047@shorty.sorbonet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609081031.41701@strip-the-willow>
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:31:41AM +0100, gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk wrote:
> Suggested Change: If user doesn't want to set a service code, that's fine,
> leave the service code associated with connection at 0.
I totally agree with you on this, but I have been killed when suggesting this on
dccp@itef.org.
> Justification:
> In a forthcoming communication to SIGCOMM-06, the inventors of DCCP say that
> they were "motivated by keeping the basic API as simple as UDP's" and that
> "DCCP should provide applications with an API as simple as that of UDP".
I think the same authors killed me on this point. I believe their motivation is
"we want service codes to be used" and that they are a useful thing. I agree
with them, but I don't agree on "forcing the users to use service codes".
In practice, I think the situation will end up just as you described:
programmers will say "what is a service code?" and all weird things will start
emerging by people setting random codes just to get their application working.
Indeed, question 1 of Linux's DCCP FAQ will end up being: "connect() returns
error HELP! Did you set a SC?". Most of the initial DCCP applications will be
test apps anyway, and I think the burden of "inventing" a service code or
assigning one should be avoided.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-08 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-08 9:31 Proposed socket API change gerrit
2006-09-08 9:48 ` Andrea Bittau [this message]
2006-09-08 10:49 ` gerrit
2006-09-08 18:08 ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-10 5:23 ` Eddie Kohler
2006-09-10 6:07 ` Eddie Kohler
2006-09-11 13:30 ` Gerrit Renker
2006-09-11 14:17 ` Gerrit Renker
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