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From: Eddie Kohler <kohler@cs.ucla.edu>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] dccp: Do not send Dccp-Sync after received	sequence-invalid
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:23:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A9E83E.6080508@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48A91013.2010300@cn.fujitsu.com>

Gerrit Renker wrote:
>> 7.5.4.  Handling Sequence-Invalid Packets
>>
>> o  A sequence-invalid DCCP-Reset packet MUST elicit a DCCP-Sync
>>   packet in response (subject to a possible rate limit).  This
>>   response packet MUST use a new Sequence Number, and thus will
>>   increase GSS; GSR will not change, however, since the received
>>   packet was sequence-invalid.  The response packet's
>>   Acknowledgement Number MUST equal GSR.
>>
>> But reponse to a sequence-invalid DCCP-Reset with acknowledgement
>> number equal to GSR will help to attack for sequence number. ...
 >
> The requiremement of using GSR here is related to fixing another bug which
> leads to a flood of Sync/Reset packets. A description of that bug is on
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dccp@vger.kernel.org/msg01594.html

Furthermore, Yongjun, I don't see how this is an "attack."  DCCP is not robust 
against an attacker who can receive packets in the relevant connection, such 
as the two DCCP-Syncs in your example.  Your attack is out of the threat model.

Eddie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-18 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-18  6:00 [PATCHv2] dccp: Do not send Dccp-Sync after received sequence-invalid Wei Yongjun
2008-08-18 15:18 ` [PATCHv2] dccp: Do not send Dccp-Sync after received Gerrit Renker
2008-08-18 21:23 ` Eddie Kohler [this message]
2008-08-19  0:32 ` [PATCHv2] dccp: Do not send Dccp-Sync after received sequence-invalid Wei Yongjun

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