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From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Ian Lepore <ian-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kyle Evans <kevans-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Frank Rowand
	<frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jon Loeliger <jdl-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] overlays: auto allocate phandles for nodes in base fdt
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:53:17 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180105035317.GJ24581@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1515103688.1759.29.camel-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>

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On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 03:08:08PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 15:47 -0600, Kyle Evans wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Kyle Evans <kevans-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Kyle Evans <kevans-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Frank Rowand  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > [... snip ...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does this remove the need for the proposed patch, or am I still
> > > > > missing something?
> > > > ... nope. Apparently I never tested this with this particular dtc(1)
> > > > and instead just assumed it did the same as ours- allocate phandle
> > > > sparsely, even with -@. That certainly removes the need for this
> > > > patch, and I'm somewhat upset that I hadn't previously considered
> > > > this.
> > > > 
> > > > @David, Jon: Please disregard all of the patches along these lines...
> > > > I'll fix this in our dtc, where it should be fixed.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, Frank!
> > > Actually, I'm kind of torn on whether this is useful or not. With
> > > being able to have EFI-provided FDT, it's hard to guarantee whether
> > > the FDT we're provided has been compiled with GPL dtc(1) and -@. The
> > > above solves this problem for most of my personal use-cases , though,
> > > since I can guarantee that our FDT and U-Boot provided FDT is compiled
> > > properly.
> > Apologies for the triple post; I realized that this argument is
> > inherently wrong, since we can't reference the node if there's no
> > symbol anyways.
> > 
> > The only way this might still be a good idea is to support more
> > minimal cases where an implementation might prefer to not create a
> > phandle for nodes that haven't been referenced.
> > 
> > In our case, we have a function [1] that walks the tree and generates
> > metadata on nodes that have phandles, under the assumption that these
> > have been referenced somewhere and provides a way to more quickly
> > reference these specifically through a separate linked link.
> > Allocating phandles for everything as GPL dtc does adds quite a bit
> > more overhead to this.
> > 
> > [1] http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/freebsd-head/sys/dev/ofw/openfirm.c#119
> 
> In particular, it makes lookups more expensive as it now must traverse
> a list that includes every node in the dtb, rather than just nodes that
> are actually referenced.  (It also increases the amount of storage, but
> at 20-ish bytes per node, that's not a big deal.)

Lookups of what exactly?  Aren't you unflattening the tree after you
read it in?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-05  3:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-04 20:15 [PATCH v2 1/2] overlays: auto allocate phandles for nodes in base fdt Kyle Evans
     [not found] ` <CACNAnaEGfaZ=s5x8pw2AHf+SQHLTCTGCedL+TxOKXbA=e=kj0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-04 20:33   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]     ` <9711cac8-2501-7d68-2fb3-1c3a952fa96a-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-04 20:41       ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]         ` <CACNAnaHck=vyC8dYa0HeFzd=MryucvOUSyYvkJw68tBe_goxWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-04 21:34           ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]             ` <CACNAnaG=kcaUFFH7Dh70o1x-=1WxgJJGE1s0zsTdLvdYCcviMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-04 21:47               ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-04 22:08                   ` Ian Lepore
     [not found]                     ` <1515103688.1759.29.camel-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05  3:53                       ` David Gibson [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20180105035317.GJ24581-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05  4:23                           ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]                             ` <CACNAnaEXyhHcxCPz7MYmKS=uh-QdxUDZx7dSuY2=fpzLO44SWA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05 20:43                               ` Frank Rowand
2018-01-05  1:55                   ` Frank Rowand
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2018-01-05  2:39                       ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-05  3:14                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                             ` <41a2006b-9b54-d803-7a28-457091db6f42-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05  3:50                               ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-05  5:02                                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                     ` <5c11d86d-da33-ece5-3170-8fa0bbe5b546-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05  5:47                                       ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]                                         ` <CACNAnaER1_EW0_HSWcViSiGPTqoLKkh-JF0UKLN1hAwzxhizvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05 20:40                                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                             ` <79ae4708-6a55-a6b6-7eaf-e473baa2c1ac-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05 21:04                                               ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-05 21:22                                                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                                     ` <2a75a5f8-dba9-7ff2-4443-f1c2ffb374cc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-06  0:47                                                       ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-06  1:59                                                           ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-16 14:07                                                               ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 14:05                                                           ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                                             ` <20180116140512.GO30352-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 15:24                                                               ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-16 23:38                                                                   ` David Gibson
2018-01-12  5:33                                               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                                 ` <20180112053310.GL24770-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-12  7:07                                                   ` Frank Rowand
2018-01-12 15:57                                                   ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]                                                     ` <CACNAnaEWn4+hOREZ57-UNKRuypgght1C6_5oVkqhwmaj-1yGLw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-12 16:24                                                       ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-16 13:34                                                           ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                                             ` <20180116133418.GL30352-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 15:37                                                               ` Kyle Evans
2018-01-16 13:30                                                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                                         ` <20180116133040.GK30352-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 15:32                                                           ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]                                                             ` <CACNAnaFfXLVCG0e7KHtvU3rboKJpwMYV-WPqFw+kSMQeMqHu+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 23:40                                                               ` David Gibson
2018-01-10  9:44                                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                         ` <20180110094431.GC24770-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-10 14:15                                           ` Kyle Evans
2018-01-10  9:38                                   ` David Gibson
2018-01-10  9:19                           ` David Gibson
2018-01-05  3:40           ` David Gibson
     [not found]             ` <20180105034057.GH24581-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05  4:00               ` Kyle Evans
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2018-01-01  6:59 [PATCHv2 0/2] " kevans-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w
     [not found] ` <20180101065945.65451-1-kevans-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-01  6:59   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " kevans-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w
     [not found]     ` <20180101065945.65451-2-kevans-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-03  5:42       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20180103054220.GP24581-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-03 14:04           ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]             ` <CACNAnaHW19kCE24KUpi2LFNUS94H2xajq6WWpi0NgY53FAymzw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-04  3:26               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                 ` <20180104032600.GA24581-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-04 14:21                   ` Kyle Evans
     [not found]                     ` <CACNAnaHf6bQcJCkStCWy56cUYeXjZcO6TQfT2pCq=oBviDMckg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-05  3:39                       ` David Gibson
2018-01-04 20:11       ` Frank Rowand

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