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From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrei Ziureaev <andrei.ziureaev-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] dtc: Preserve negative integers in yaml and dts output
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:59:40 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200705085940.GB12576@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200626162528.2129-1-andrei.ziureaev-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>

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On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 05:25:25PM +0100, Andrei Ziureaev wrote:
> Currently, in yaml output, negative values are indistinguishable from
> positive ones. Some bindings (for example
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/accel/lis302.txt) mention negative
> values. If those binding are converted to yaml, dt-schema validation
> wouldn't work with them.

> The first patch is a mechanical change and shouldn't affect dtc's
> behaviour.
> 
> The second one is the functional change. When applied, dts to dts and
> dts to yaml conversions preserve the '-' sign in front of integers.
> 
> For now, in dts parsing, only the unary '-' operator creates negative
> values (the other operators just set the 'is_negative' flag to false),
> but it should be easy to add support for other operators if needed.

Hmmmmm.  I'm really not convinced by this.  It seems like a lot of
fiddly work to preserve the sign only in a pretty narrow set of cases.
Basically it will only be reliably correct in the case of just
(-literal).  Something like (5-3) will still show as 0xfe rather than
-0x2, and if you do -(3-5) or (-3+5) you'll get the very strange
looking "-0xfe".

I also don't see why this is vital to schema validation.  The
validator should know the binding, and will therefore know which
values are signed, and can appropriately treat 0xfe and -2 (or
equivalent at whatever width) as the same.

> One issue is that there are two ways to format an array of bytes in dts:
> '/bits/ 8 <...>' and '[...]'.

So, these are intended for different purposes.  If you want to think
of your bytes as a bunch of 8-bit numbers, the former is appropriate.
The [ ... ] notation is more intended to be a compact way of putting
in "untyped" binary data.  For example, a blob of information which
gets verbatim copied into a device without interpretation by the
driver would make sense to use this form.

> Only the former supports negative
> integers. But, in dts output, only the latter is used. Therefore, I
> didn't include support for negative 8-bit values in dts output (I did
> add support for them in yaml output). Some possible alternatives are:
> 
> - switch to the '/bits/ 8 <>' format in dts output
> 
> - only switch to the '/bits/ 8 <>' format if the array contains negative
>   values
> 
> - add another marker to differentiate between the two formats

I'd be ok with this, given the distinction above.  This is similar to
putting different for markers for say "abc" and <0x61626300> which
likewise represent the same bytes.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-05  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-26 16:25 [PATCH 0/3] dtc: Preserve negative integers in yaml and dts output Andrei Ziureaev
     [not found] ` <20200626162528.2129-1-andrei.ziureaev-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 16:25   ` [PATCH 1/3] dtc: Turn 'uint64_t integer' into a struct Andrei Ziureaev
2020-06-26 16:25   ` [PATCH 2/3] dtc: Preserve negative integers in yaml and dts output Andrei Ziureaev
2020-06-26 16:25   ` [PATCH 3/3] dtc: Add sign preservation tests Andrei Ziureaev
     [not found]     ` <20200626162528.2129-4-andrei.ziureaev-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-30  1:40       ` Rob Herring
2020-06-30  1:43   ` [PATCH 0/3] dtc: Preserve negative integers in yaml and dts output Rob Herring
2020-07-05  8:59   ` David Gibson [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20200705085940.GB12576-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-07 15:47       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]         ` <CAL_JsqJt5a1SGN4JsTLBdO0+7niYh0hvEP_Ta80iuFV-__5TZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-08 11:12           ` David Gibson
     [not found]             ` <20200708111204.GI18595-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-08 16:26               ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                 ` <CAL_JsqJ5+um_2XMzzL90K3wS-N98MXP52SBSnJgNQ1agsjz-eg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-17 11:13                   ` David Gibson
     [not found]                     ` <20200717111316.GK5607-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-17 20:25                       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                         ` <CAL_JsqKwQ0wFq60EKNz_g8R-We9JKWh7P=hgtRTOYtufac179Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-03  8:52                           ` David Gibson

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