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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Ayush Singh <ayush@beagleboard.org>
Cc: Andreas Gnau <andreas.gnau@iopsys.eu>,
	d-gole@ti.com, lorforlinux@beagleboard.org,
	jkridner@beagleboard.org, robertcnelson@beagleboard.org,
	nenad.marinkovic@mikroe.com, Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Robert Nelson <robertcnelson@gmail.com>,
	devicetree-compiler@vger.kernel.org,
	Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] Add capability to append to property
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:54:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z2z9mk8nrMzLi-gy@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89073be9-c5f6-47ef-81d3-e7d57070f8d0@beagleboard.org>

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 09:00:14PM +0530, Ayush Singh wrote:
> 
> On 16/12/24 11:39, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Andreas Gnau wrote:
> > > On 2024-11-11 10:54, Ayush Singh wrote:
> > > > Allow appending values to a property instead of overriding the previous
> > > > values of property.
> > > > 
> > > > Currently, we have /delete-node/ and /delete-property/, but lack
> > > > /append-property/. Hence we end up having to repeat all existing values
> > > > when appending to a property (e.g. see [1] appending to clocks from
> > > > [2]).
> > > > 
> > > > This functionality is also important for creating a device tree based
> > > > implementation to support different types of addon-boards such as
> > > > mikroBUS, Grove [3], etc.
> > > > 
> > > > In practice, it looks as follows:
> > > > 
> > > > ```
> > > > dts-v1/;
> > > > 
> > > > / {
> > > > 	str-prop = "0";
> > > > };
> > > > 
> > > > / {
> > > > 	/append-property/ str-prop = "1";
> > > > };
> > > > ```
> > > If we add /append-property/, why not add /prepend-property/ as well? This is
> > > not only "nice for consistency", but it would also enable solving a problem
> > > where SoC compatible strings from dtsi [1] need to be repeated in board dts
> > > [2], because one cannot prepend to an existing property.
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > dts-v1/;
> > > / {
> > > 	compatible = "soc-vendor,soc1234";
> > > };
> > > 
> > > / {
> > > 	/prepend-property/ compatible = "board-vendor,board-xyz";
> > > };
> > > ```
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > So, this kind of demonstrates why I don't love /append-property/ as a
> > proposed syntax.  The way I'd prefer to do this, ideally, is to allow
> > properties to be described as expressions.  We already have integer
> > expressions that can be used in < > context, but I had intended to
> > extent to string and bytestring expressions - but I've never had the
> > time to implement that.
> > 
> > Under that proposal, I'd expect appending to look something like:
> > 	str-prop = /previous-value/, "1";
> > 
> > Prepending,
> > 	str-prop = "1", /previous-value/;
> > 
> > .. and you could do both at once in the obvious way.
> > 
> > The downside, of course, is that this is a much more complicated
> > proposal to implement.  Parsing that syntax isn't too hard, but I
> > think doing it sensibly will need some structural changes in order to
> > evaluate property values as expressions, rather than simply
> > constructing the properties directly left to right.  In particular the
> > interactions between expression syntax and within-property labels (and
> > other markers) could be fiddly to get right.
> > 
> 
> Do you wish to allow `/previous-value/` to be repeated in the same property?
> Something like this:
> 
>     str-prop = "1", /previous-value/, "2", /previous-value/, "3";

Yes, I'd expect that to work.  Note that I don't particularly like the
name "/previous-value/" - that was just an example to demonstrate what
I had in mind.  If anyone can think of a better or more succinct name
for this, please suggest it.

-- 
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david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you, not the other way
				| around.
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-26  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-11  9:54 [PATCH v3 0/2] Add capability to append to property Ayush Singh
2024-11-11  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dtc: Add /append-property/ Ayush Singh
2024-11-15  4:07   ` Dhruva Gole
2024-11-11  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tests: Add test for append-property Ayush Singh
2024-12-04 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Add capability to append to property Ayush Singh
2024-12-10 15:34 ` Andreas Gnau
2024-12-11  4:51   ` Ayush Singh
2024-12-16  6:09   ` David Gibson
2024-12-20 15:30     ` Ayush Singh
2024-12-26  6:54       ` David Gibson [this message]
2024-12-26 11:10         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-12-27  4:05           ` David Gibson

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