From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
Devicetree Compiler <devicetree-compiler@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] dtc: Add a list for the top-level fragments of a dts file
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2026 17:32:35 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aurRguellIz-7spN@gractus.seuss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261103185620.3bba770a@bootlin.com>
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On Tue, Nov 03, 2026 at 06:56:20PM +0100, Herve Codina wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2026 20:49:48 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 01, 2026 at 09:36:56AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > A dts file is made up of top-level fragments: the root node, later
> > > definitions of a node by label or path, and /delete-node/ or
> > > /omit-if-no-ref/ with a reference. We would like to deal with each
> > > fragment on its own before it is merged, for example to apply deletes
> > > consistently or to run some checks on each one, but that requires
> > > keeping the fragments apart. At present the parser merges each one into
> > > the tree as soon as it is parsed.
> >
> > Btw, I'm extremely open to a better name than "fragment" if one occurs
> > to you. I believe I originally thought of these as "overlays" but
> > that's confusing since runtime overlays were invented.
>
> "A dts file is made up of top-level fragments: the root node, later
> definitions of a node by label or path"
>
> A node reference by a label or a path is not a definition of node, it is
> a reference to a node.
>
> Once those references are merged (if possible), we only have a root node
> and orphan nodes (nodes without a parent node). Indeed, those orphan nodes
> reference a node out of the current devicetree (dts or dtb).
Yes..
> Orphan nodes are just references that cannot be merged in the current
> devicetree.
>
> Instead of "fragment", "unresolved" ?
>
> &label {
> prop;
> };
>
> Is an unresolved node while &label is not resolved to an existing node.
>
> We try to merge those unresolved nodes (label resolution + merge) and any
> unresolved nodes that are not merged (label not resolved) are orphan nodes.
>
> The exact same occurs when we use paths instead of label. The only difference
> is that a path can always be resolved. Having an unresolved path is an error.
>
> With that in mind, having a look at orphan nodes in the addon series [0] (patch 44
> and following ones) could give some ideas.
>
> Does it make sense ?
That's all true, but I don't see what you're suggesting. Here I'm
looking for a name for the syntactic top-level construct, whether or
not it's resolvable within this file or not.
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-01 16:36 [PATCH 00/13] dtc: Merge the fragments of a dts file after parsing Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] tests: Check each error when merging a dts file Simon Glass
2026-11-02 6:32 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 15:15 ` Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:36 ` [PATCH 02/13] dtc: Add a list for the top-level fragments of " Simon Glass
2026-11-02 9:49 ` David Gibson
2026-11-03 17:56 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 6:32 ` David Gibson [this message]
2026-11-04 8:29 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 9:34 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 15:18 ` Simon Glass
2026-11-03 17:07 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 6:28 ` David Gibson
2026-11-01 16:36 ` [PATCH 03/13] dtc: Move the /delete-node/ handling out of the grammar Simon Glass
2026-11-02 9:55 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 15:15 ` Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:36 ` [PATCH 04/13] dtc: Move the /omit-if-no-ref/ " Simon Glass
2026-11-02 10:03 ` David Gibson
2026-11-01 16:36 ` [PATCH 05/13] dtc: Move is_ref_relative() to livetree.c Simon Glass
2026-11-02 10:04 ` David Gibson
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 06/13] dtc: Move label-reference handling out of the grammar Simon Glass
2026-11-03 7:25 ` David Gibson
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 07/13] dtc: Move path-reference " Simon Glass
2026-11-03 7:27 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 15:16 ` Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 08/13] dtc: Move labelled-reference " Simon Glass
2026-11-03 7:29 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 15:16 ` Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 09/13] dtc: Move first-reference " Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 10/13] dtc: Add merge_fragment() to merge any fragment Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 11/13] dtc: Add helpers for the errors when merging a fragment Simon Glass
2026-11-03 17:23 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 6:49 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 8:55 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 12/13] dtc: Merge the fragments of a dts file after parsing Simon Glass
2026-11-03 17:07 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 6:50 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 15:18 ` Simon Glass
2026-11-01 16:37 ` [PATCH 13/13] dtc: Merge the fragments of a dts file in main() Simon Glass
2026-11-03 17:08 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 6:51 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 8:40 ` Herve Codina
2026-11-04 9:47 ` David Gibson
2026-11-04 13:23 ` Herve Codina
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