From: Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>
To: Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Grant Likely
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Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Ian Campbell <ijc-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: devicetree repository separation/migration
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:32:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140219183221.GO7862@titan.lakedaemon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMhvoB7vRf3H1kMaL5+MgZ2gJy=ZVNU0gsXVye9S4YGBOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:47:56AM -0800, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 04:57:50PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 01:05:44PM -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > ...
> >> > - Is the Linux development workflow ready for devicetree to move out
> >> > of the Linux Kernel?
> >>
> >> I hope so since keeping the devicetrees in sync with the kernel is a
> >> pain for all external users.
> >
> > Well, I haven't heard any screams yet. I suspect people are waiting for
> > details on the exact form it would take before complaining...
>
> I'M SCREAMING NOW. :-)
.:. I just pooped my pants. :)
> Honestly though, I think we need to do this carefully. Even though we
> don't like it, there are still lots of bindings in flux and
> cross-dependencies between two independent repos will be a major pain.
Agreed.
> I think we have two options:
>
> 1. Bring out everything in the current kernel repo to a separate one,
> but do it my mirroring over. Changes go into the kernel repo first and
> then comes over to this one, but other projects can mirror the
> standalone repo without downloading a whole kernel tree.
I prefer this one. Assuming that a separate repo is mostly agreed upon,
this allows us to provide the tree in an easily digestible way without
impacting the current workflow.
Also, if it works for the other projects, no one says we have to move
beyond this step.
> 2. Remove the kernel contents and move it over to the new repo. This
> should be done independently for each platform, and the maintainers
> get to decide if, when and how they do it. Some platforms are ready
> for it (some have been for a long time), others are not. And it's up
> to the maintainer, since they are the ones we will yell at when they
> make our life miserable by adding cross-dependencies with an external
> repo. Breakage due to the move is something we should have to put up
> with, etc.
>
> >> I'll likely need some barebox specific additions to the devicetrees.
> >> Right now our idea is to leave the provided devicetrees untouched and
> >> instead of compiling the board dts files directly we create
> >> <boardname>-barebox.dts files which include the original board files.
> >> That would allow us to provide additional information to barebox
> >> without having to carry patches for the devicetrees.
> >
> > So the resulting <boardname>-barebox.dtb is compiled into the barebox
> > binary? Is the dtb passed to the kernel independently upgradeable?
> >
> > Why not post binding/dts patches for 'barebox,...' attributes that you
> > need?
>
> +1. These should ideally be posted and reviewed too -- maybe they make
> sense to share between barebox and other firmware stacks, for example.
Agreed, so is there anything preventing that from happening currently?
thx,
Jason.
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2014-02-17 18:05 devicetree repository separation/migration Jason Cooper
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2014-02-18 14:34 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 15:57 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140218155750.GS17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 18:18 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140218181854.GB7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:09 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5303AFDC.9010908-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:22 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 19:47 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-02-18 22:21 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-02-18 22:44 ` Tim Bird
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2014-02-19 9:08 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140219090854.GW17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:16 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <53051102.8060801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:15 ` Grant Likely
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2014-02-19 21:37 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-20 4:58 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <53058B69.4040502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 8:14 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6ugF2_kzDPLdv-Z1LUnkX4DHq9R45o64kJHVBSQjWFiNg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:38 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 21:15 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-21 18:22 ` Warner Losh
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2014-02-21 21:04 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-19 21:12 ` Rob Herring
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2014-02-19 21:20 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-02-20 9:40 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 11:38 ` Grant Likely
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2014-02-21 18:27 ` Warner Losh
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2014-02-22 18:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-21 18:57 ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-20 14:34 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 21:32 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <530522F8.8050102-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 15:01 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 9:22 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-19 18:32 ` Jason Cooper [this message]
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2014-02-19 20:23 ` Warner Losh
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2014-02-20 9:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-18 22:14 ` Frank Rowand
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2014-02-19 18:46 ` Jason Cooper
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2014-02-19 20:18 ` Frank Rowand
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2014-02-20 9:49 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-19 20:28 ` Warner Losh
2014-02-19 8:32 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-02-19 18:50 ` Jason Cooper
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2014-02-19 21:43 ` Warner Losh
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