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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Griffin
	<peter.griffin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: st_fdma: Firmware filename in DT?
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:26:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150904132617.GB4796@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201509041504.38412.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Friday 04 September 2015, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > If we flip it the other way round, some subsystems derive the firmware
> > > > name from the 'node name'.  For instance, our zeroth General Purpose
> > > > Co-Processor RemoteProc driver has a corresponding node called
> > > > 'st231-gp0@40000000'.  RemoteProc adds an 'rproc-' prefix and a '-fw'
> > > > suffix and et voilà, we load file:
> > > > 
> > > >   lib/firmware/rproc-st231-gp0-fw
> > > 
> > > IMO deriving from the node name seems fragile. Also imposing a linux'ism
> > > "rproc" prefix on the firmware name doesn't seem correct as the firmwares
> > > can be shared across OS's. Although this is how remoteproc subsys core
> > > is currently working. It seems a generic DT firmware binding would actually
> > > be most useful for the remoteproc subsystem.
> > 
> > The "rproc-%s-fw", where %s == driver name, is only a fall-back.  The
> > RProc driver is welcome to supply a different firmware name if it
> > desires.  This is where I think a generic 'firmware' property would be
> > of use.
> 
> The firmware file name is agreed on between the device driver and the
> file system, so encoding the linux driver name in it seems appropriate.
> 
> Generally speaking, I'd say a good policy would be to try basing
> the firmware name on the "compatible" property strings. That property
> already contains a hierarchical list of models, which makes it particularly
> easy to have firmware files for specific models or those that are shared
> across multiple variations if necessary. Just ask for the most specific
> compatible string first and try the more specific compatible strings
> (with an appropriate prefix and/or postfix added by the driver) until
> a file is found.

It depends what you mean by "basing the firmware name on the
\"compatible\" property" here.  If you mean actually renaming the
firmware binary file to match a driver's compatible string, that's
absolutely out of the question.  Firmwares are not only OS agnostic,
but are also independent of any H/W description language a particular
OS or platform might be using.  Using DT'isums to rename these
binaries is not logical.

However, if you mean simply match on compatible string and supply the
name from within the driver, that's closer to the mark (as then we can
at least keep it in-house [kernel]), but it's still not particularly
practical for the aforementioned reasons mentioned by Peter earlier.

Why not just create a new 'firmware' property?  Simples! [0]

[0] http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/simples

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-04 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150903144944.GC7093@griffinp-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-2nd>
2015-09-03 21:45 ` st_fdma: Firmware filename in DT? Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <CAL_JsqKQqbAQCPR6xuR2Ke5gEdX4kQYb29-W3qNaZqjM_JBoYg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04  6:59     ` Lee Jones
2015-09-04  9:20       ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-04 10:21         ` Lee Jones
2015-09-04 13:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <201509041504.38412.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04 13:26               ` Lee Jones [this message]
2015-09-04 13:44                 ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                   ` <CAL_Jsq+XpBV+BMMq1gYnvKtv6O5mjqVw6zsP4G-4Za3cQm9PzQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04 13:54                     ` Lee Jones
2015-09-04 14:36                       ` Warner Losh
2015-09-05  9:17                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201509051117.59751.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-08  3:14                     ` David Gibson
2015-09-04 14:30               ` Warner Losh
     [not found]                 ` <C93CEE95-AF30-4B2D-BD96-66733B282414-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-05  8:58                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                     ` <CANCZdfrLbbN_nGJ8WLsBHHGuM3SxGgiLgjkZ+YG4zP4BBA68YQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <CANCZdfrLbbN_nGJ8WLsBHHGuM3SxGgiLgjkZ+YG4zP4BBA68YQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-07 12:41                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-04 14:27           ` Warner Losh
     [not found]             ` <5E0DCAA5-DB90-4682-92F2-061A07FE973E-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04 19:04               ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                 ` <CAL_Jsq+bw1TcXt0c8L4BSvwWK82L2cG-qdw369EkvxWe-5RXbQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-05  9:25                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                     ` <201509051125.43527.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-07 10:30                       ` Daniel Thompson
     [not found]                         ` <55ED6733.7050807-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-07 12:33                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-07 14:36                             ` Daniel Thompson
     [not found]                               ` <55EDA0EB.1040501-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-07 15:59                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-10 14:18                                 ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11  9:17                                   ` Lee Jones
2015-09-11  9:21                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-11  9:39                                       ` Lee Jones
2015-09-11  9:46                                     ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 10:25                                       ` Lee Jones
2015-09-11 12:31                                         ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-04 16:19           ` Daniel Thompson
2015-09-04  8:46     ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-08  2:57     ` David Gibson

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