From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Florian Fainelli
<f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Cyril Novikov <cnovikov-wte42BQEg7M@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Pantelis Antoniou
<pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Tom Rini <trini-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Virtualization difficulty -- phandles
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:50:34 +1000 [thread overview]
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:09:48AM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> (Adding Pantelis and Tom, since I'm going somewhat off-topic from
> the original thread, and they are impacted by what I am asking.)
>
> On 07/15/17 22:35, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 09:47:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >> On 07/12/2017 09:23 PM, Cyril Novikov wrote:
> >>> On 7/12/2017 10:10 AM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >>>> On 07/11/2017 11:15 PM, Cyril Novikov wrote:
> >>>>> Hi, all!
> >>>>>
>
> < snip >
>
> > The
> > phandle fixup information goes into the special __local_fixups__ and
> > __fixups__ nodes (which have gratuitiously different format, but
> > that's a rant for elsewhere).
>
> < snip >
>
> And in another email, David describes the __local_fixups__ format
> nicely, so I'll just copy that here instead of re-inventing it:
>
>
> > Well, I don't want to invent a new encoding if we can possibly avoid
> > it. The current encoding used for overlay generation looks like this
> >
> > / {
> > target: node@0 {
> > };
> > node@1 {
> > ref = <&target>;
> > };
> > __local_fixups__ = {
> > node@1 {
> > ref = <0>;
> > };
> > };
> > };
> >
> > Basically, __local_fixups__ has a subtree which paralells the main
> > tree. Each property found under __local_fixups__ is a list of offsets
> > at which phandle references appear in the corresponding property in
> > the main tree.
>
> I share your desire to rant about the different formats between
> __local_fixups__ and __fixups__. But I have not come up with an
> alternate format for __local_fixups__ that makes me happy. The
> best format that I have come up with so far would be:
Well to fix it minimally, I'd go the other way - make __fixups__ look
like __local_fixups__ but augmented with labels. Strings that need
parsing aren't a normal thing in the DT.
> / {
> target: node@0 {
> };
> node@1 {
> ref = <&target>;
> ref2 = <&target 42 &target_2>;
> };
> target_2: node@2 {
> };
> __local_fixups__ = {
> x1 = <"node@1/ref" 0>;
> x2 = <"node@1/ref2" 0 8>;
> };
> };
> };
>
> x1 and x2 are abitrary property names.
> The format of each __local_fixups__ property is
> - path of property referencing a phandle
> - list of offsets of the phandle in the property
>
> As another alternative, Grant was thinking about adding
> a new block to the FDT format to contain the phandle
> information. That would remove the need to come up
> with a convoluted dts syntax, but adds in the problem
> of bootloaders corrupting the new block if they were
> not aware of it. He had thoughts about versioning
> and checksums to detect the corruption it if did
> occur.
>
> If we were starting from scratch, do you have any other
> approach that might be fruitful? It seems like maybe
> I am missing something that requires thinking outside
> the box.
I thought about this the other day a bit. If going from scratch, I
think the way to do it would be to add a new FDT_REF tag to the
structure block stream. After the FDT_PROP tag and its contents,
you'd have an arbitrary number of FDT_REF tags, each giving an offset
in the preceding property and a label to fix it up to match. Not
sure if you'd want separate FDT_REF and FDT_LOCAL_REF or just use an
empty label to describe a local ref.
This would also allow for extension to say FDT_PATH_REF to insert
paths rather than phandles (i.e. a runtime equivalent of prop = &foo;
rather than prop = < &foo >;).
For encoding the fragments of an overlay, I'd suggest giving them
simply as separate subtrees in the structure block, all before the
FDT_END tag. At the moment there has to be only a single subtree
before the FDT_END, and the top-level FDT_BEGIN is expected to have an
empty name. We can extend that to overlays by allowing multiple
subtrees, and making the top-level "name" the target label instead.
Incidentally, I'd take "label" in all the above to be represented as
an old-style OF path. That is, either an absolute path /foo/bar/baz,
or a path relative to an alias, alias/foo/bar/baz. That means we can
just use the existing defined /aliases, rather than re-inventing it as
__symbols__.
--
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| _way_ _around_!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-25 7:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-12 6:15 Virtualization difficulty -- phandles Cyril Novikov
2017-07-12 17:10 ` Florian Fainelli
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2017-07-13 4:23 ` Cyril Novikov
2017-07-13 16:47 ` Florian Fainelli
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2017-07-16 5:35 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170716053548.GL17539-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-18 1:37 ` Cyril Novikov
2017-07-19 3:30 ` David Gibson
2017-07-24 17:09 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <597629DC.5060800-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-25 7:50 ` David Gibson [this message]
[not found] ` <20170725075034.GD8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 20:58 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <597A53E1.4010002-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 21:59 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-07-28 4:25 ` David Gibson
2017-07-14 10:58 ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-18 1:47 ` Cyril Novikov
2017-07-19 3:40 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170719034029.GT3140-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22 4:24 ` Cyril Novikov
2017-07-24 6:14 ` David Gibson
2017-07-24 16:27 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <59762000.7000302-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 23:00 ` Cyril Novikov
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