From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
Ayush Singh <ayush@beagleboard.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org,
Hui Pu <hui.pu@gehealthcare.com>,
Ian Ray <ian.ray@gehealthcare.com>,
Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
Frank Li <Frank.Li@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/15] libfdt: Don't assume the root node is available at offset 0
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 17:02:09 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqEEXIqrR8A1SPig@gractus.seuss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260909085826.1f80a45b@bootlin.com>
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On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 08:58:26AM +0200, Herve Codina wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 16:18:22 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > >
> > > Having a fdt_root_offset() stop at either FDT_BEGIN_NODE_REF or FDT_BEGIN_NODE
> > > is "fdt_first_node_offset()".
> >
> > > Let me introduce the internal fdt_first_node_offset_()
> > > - fdt_root_offset()
> > > It calls fdt_first_node_offset_() and check that this node is a
> > > FDT_BEGIN_NODE node.
> > >
> > > - fdt_check_node_offset_()
> > > if the offset == 0, it updates the value with the offset returned by
> > > fdt_first_node_offset_()
> >
> > Right, that's exactly what I'd suggest.
> >
> > A possible tweak would be to have fdt_check_node_offset_() only apply
> > special case 0 handling if the _actual_ offset 0 doesn't look like a
> > valid node offset. Not sure if that will make things messier or
> > cleaner.
> >
> > > And so, a node offset 0 doesn't means the root node but the first node
> > > in the dtb (root or orphan). I am totally fine with this definition.
> >
> > Right. If you don't want that behaviour for addon dtbs, then I think
> > the way to go would be to explicitly avoid all special case handling
> > of 0 if the header flags an addon. Handling addons requires new code,
> > so we don't have to maintain backwards compatibliity for things that
> > used 0 assuming it meant root node.
> >
> > > At some point, maybe users of the API (when addon are involved) will have to
> > > take care of that and perform something like:
> > > root = fdt_root_offset();
> > > fdt_get_property(fdt, root, "prop", NULL);
> > >
> > > Or
> > > fdt_for_each_orphan(orphan, fdt) {
> > > fdt_get_property(fdt, orphan, "prop", NULL);
> > > ...
> > > }
> > >
> > > Here also, I am totally fine with that an I already use this kind of sequence
> > > in libfdt/fdt_addon.c to apply an addon on a base dtb.
> > >
> > > I will introduce fdt_first_node_offset_() but let me know if you prefer
> > > having fdt_first_node_offset_() introduced right now in this "structure
> > > tags" series or later in the addon series.
> >
> > Either is fine; do whichever results in less code churn.
> >
>
> Ok, I will do that.
>
> Do you want to have an early version of that or having it in the
> next iteration of the series is fine on you side ?
Early is good. Smaller series are easier to review, and getting them
fully sorted and merged also makes things easier.
> Of course, before sending a new iteration of the series, I am
> waiting for your feedback on the "structured tags" part. This part
> is not going to be impacted by the "offset 0 vs real root offset" we
> have discussed here and so what is available in this current series
> is still valid.
Right, the root offset stuff stands on its own, so it can sensibly be
split off. Splitting series in such a way that they don't have enough
context to understand the wouldn't be helpful, of course.
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-26 8:31 [PATCH v3 00/15] Add support for structured tags and v18 dtb version Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] fdtget: Use libfdt iterators instead of open coded loops Herve Codina
2026-08-27 3:55 ` David Gibson
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] libfdt: Don't assume the root node is available at offset 0 Herve Codina
2026-08-30 3:21 ` David Gibson
2026-08-31 12:01 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-01 7:42 ` David Gibson
2026-09-01 12:18 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-02 7:06 ` David Gibson
2026-09-07 16:46 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-08 6:41 ` David Gibson
2026-09-08 8:08 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-09 6:18 ` David Gibson
2026-09-09 6:58 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-09 7:02 ` David Gibson [this message]
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] tests: " Herve Codina
2026-09-01 8:03 ` David Gibson
2026-09-01 13:36 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-02 8:56 ` David Gibson
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] tests/nopulate: Add a FDT_NOP before the root node Herve Codina
2026-09-01 8:05 ` David Gibson
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] tests: treegen: Introduce emit_fdt_header_vers() Herve Codina
2026-09-09 6:38 ` David Gibson
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] Introduce structured tag value definition Herve Codina
2026-09-10 4:51 ` David Gibson
2026-09-10 7:41 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-10 9:32 ` David Gibson
2026-09-11 7:16 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-12 2:34 ` David Gibson
2026-09-10 5:33 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20260910095823.1f5abc2b@bootlin.com>
2026-09-10 9:41 ` David Gibson
2026-09-11 7:53 ` Herve Codina
2026-09-12 2:35 ` David Gibson
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] fdtdump: Handle unknown tags Herve Codina
2026-09-10 5:25 ` David Gibson
2026-09-10 8:27 ` Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] flattree: " Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] libfdt: Handle unknown tags in fdt_next_tag() Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] libfdt: Introduce fdt_ptr_offset_() Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] libfdt: Introduce fdt_getprop_by_offset_w() Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] libfdt: Introduce fdt_getprop_offset_namelen() Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] tests: Add wip_func utility Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] libfdt: Handle unknown tags on dtb modifications Herve Codina
2026-08-26 8:31 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] Introduce v18 dtb version Herve Codina
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