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From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: Wookey <wookey@wookware.org>, Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, config-patches@gnu.org,
	distributions@lists.linux.dev, devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
	glaubitz@debian.org, maskray@google.com,
	dickey@invisible-island.net, toolchain@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Proposed CHOST change for the 64bit time_t transition
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2024 19:03:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2015989.tdWV9SEqCh@noumea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e8dadbc-7ae2-465f-b8f6-d0d62507a191@cs.ucla.edu>

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> One possible improvement would be to append "t32" if you want 32-bit 
> time_t, instead of appending "t64" for 64-bit time_t. 

I hope you aren't earnestly proposing this worst of both worlds idea 
(let's change CHOST for any system with no ABI change).

> I felt the same way about the 64-bit off_t back in the 1990s. It was 
> obvious to me even at the time that we would have been significantly 
> better off making off_t 64-bit, while keeping 32-bit off_t in the ABI 
> for backward compatibility; this is what NetBSD did with time_t in 2012. 
> Although I realize others felt differently, I never fully understood 
> their concerns.
> 
> And here I am, three decades later, still having to make changes[1] to 
> Autoconf's AC_SYS_LARGEFILE macro to continue to support that 
> 30-year-old off_t mistake, and now with 64-bit time_t interacting with 
> 64-off_t in non-orthogonal ways.

Well, at least time64 implies largefile, so that will get sorted as side
effect.


-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer 
(council, comrel, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 15:48 Proposed CHOST change for the 64bit time_t transition Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05  0:32 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-09-05  2:06 ` Wookey
2024-09-05  3:10   ` Khem Raj
2024-09-05 13:50     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05 15:39       ` Paul Eggert
2024-09-05 16:33         ` Todd Vierling
2024-09-05 16:59           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05 17:03         ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]
2024-09-05 18:20           ` Paul Eggert
2024-09-05 21:54             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-06 16:06         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-07  0:24           ` Bruno Haible
2024-09-07 11:52             ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-07  0:16         ` Bruno Haible
2024-09-08 14:08           ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-08 23:42             ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2024-09-09 23:08               ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-10 10:16                 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-10 14:11                   ` Todd Vierling
2024-09-10 16:23             ` Florian Weimer
2024-09-05 16:39       ` Khem Raj
2024-09-05 13:49   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-07 12:32   ` Michał Górny

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