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From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: "Jacob Bachmeyer" <jcb62281@gmail.com>,
	"Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>
Cc: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>, Wookey <wookey@wookware.org>,
	Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, config-patches@gnu.org,
	distributions@lists.linux.dev, devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
	glaubitz@debian.org, maskray@google.com,
	dickey@invisible-island.net, toolchain@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Proposed CHOST change for the 64bit time_t transition
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:16:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3650049.QJadu78ljV@noumea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86y140qvbf.fsf@aarsen.me>

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Am Dienstag, 10. September 2024, 01:08:36 CEST schrieb Arsen Arsenović:
> Jacob Bachmeyer <jcb62281@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >> At that point, we should bump SONAME of libc and simply remove 32-bit
> >> time support.  This would probably be okay generally.
> >
> > This is probably the best solution to this problem at hand, especially since
> > the old ABI has a definite expiration date about 14 years from now.  Bump the
> > libc SONAME major and hope that we can get rid of the last dependencies on the
> > old SONAME before the deadline.  We will have 14 years to do it, if that arch
> > is even still used then.
> 
> Indeed.  I believe the current thinking is that the existing software
> for the old ABI could benefit from libc updates, hence not breaking it,
> but.. it practically is somewhat broken already (hence the troubles that
> lead to this thread).
> 

This is all nice and good, but I would actually like to focus on realistic
targets (ie., ones which could be achieved significantly before 2038... :o)

That's also the beauty of only appending t64 to the last quadruplet field, 
most software is not impacted by it and just accepts it.

-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer 
(council, comrel, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Dilfridge

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-10 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 15:48 Proposed CHOST change for the 64bit time_t transition Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05  0:32 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-09-05  2:06 ` Wookey
2024-09-05  3:10   ` Khem Raj
2024-09-05 13:50     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05 15:39       ` Paul Eggert
2024-09-05 16:33         ` Todd Vierling
2024-09-05 16:59           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05 17:03         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-05 18:20           ` Paul Eggert
2024-09-05 21:54             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-06 16:06         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-07  0:24           ` Bruno Haible
2024-09-07 11:52             ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-07  0:16         ` Bruno Haible
2024-09-08 14:08           ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-08 23:42             ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2024-09-09 23:08               ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-10 10:16                 ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]
2024-09-10 14:11                   ` Todd Vierling
2024-09-10 16:23             ` Florian Weimer
2024-09-05 16:39       ` Khem Raj
2024-09-05 13:49   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-09-07 12:32   ` Michał Górny

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