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From: "Karl O. Pinc" <kop@meme.com>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] (More) Questions about LUKS / LVM
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:06:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1316542007.4663.0@mofo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110920174129.GA25723@tansi.org> (from arno@wagner.name on Tue Sep 20 12:41:29 2011)

On 09/20/2011 12:41:29 PM, Arno Wagner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:21:54PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote:
> > Am 20.09.2011 13:47, schrieb Arno Wagner:
> > > With an SSD, things are a bit different. Due to the large
> > > internal sector size, the header can be in a sector that
> > > also has data that gets rewritten in it. As sectors are
> > > always written completely, the header then is at risk whenever
> > > that data gets rewritten.


> No connection with TRIM support. It is just that if the real
> block size is larger than the block size you are using,
> the SSD will rewrite/reloacte other data on writes smaller
> that the real sector size. 
> 
> What would need ot be done is to
> 1. Align LUKS header (partition start) to a real sector
>    boundary. 
> 2. Align the start of the filesystem area in that
>    partition to a real sector boundary.
> 
> Both are only possible to do realiably when you know the
> sector size. All of my 3 SSDs claim 512 byte sectors,
> which is almost certainly a lie.

Performance is also going to suck if you don't get
alignment right on drives with 4Kb sectors.

FWIW here are the links I use to deal with 4Kb sector issues.

http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg02021.html


Karl <kop@meme.com>
Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
                 -- Robert A. Heinlein

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-20 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-20 10:36 [dm-crypt] (More) Questions about LUKS / LVM Robbie Smith
2011-09-20 10:52 ` Quentin Lefebvre
2011-09-20 11:47 ` Arno Wagner
2011-09-20 13:13   ` Milan Broz
2011-09-20 14:14     ` Arno Wagner
2011-09-20 14:52       ` Milan Broz
2011-10-03  6:17       ` Luca Berra
2011-10-03 10:55         ` Arno Wagner
2011-09-20 15:21   ` Alexander Koch
2011-09-20 16:12     ` Milan Broz
2011-09-20 17:41     ` Arno Wagner
2011-09-20 18:06       ` Karl O. Pinc [this message]
2011-09-20 18:19         ` Milan Broz
2011-09-21 10:22           ` Arno Wagner
2011-09-21 16:14             ` Dragan Milivojevic

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