From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:13:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:13:13 +0200 From: Heinz Diehl Message-ID: <20100717071313.GA7243@fancy-poultry.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [dm-crypt] Hybrid drives List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: dm-crypt@saout.de Hi, I just took a closer look at one of the (new?) hybrid harddisk drives, such as the Seagate Momentus XT, and now I'm wondering if this is a top level security problem. If I understand it correctly, the 4 GB SSD memory on the harddisk operates independendly of the drive itself, acting as a buffer/cache for virtually all the data stored to the drive. Some logic in the harddrives controller is going to serve the 4 GB SSD memory part, which is not available/accessable to the OS. In other words: such hybrid drives can not safely be encrypted with LUKS/dmcrypt (or any other WDE software), because the controller randomly swaps out 4 GB data to the SSD area, and even after shutting down the machine, parts of/the whole LUKS header/key could possibly be left on the SSD part? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX_WyOhTQEw&feature=related )