From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] luksFormat Password Entropy
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:54:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100819135455.GB18960@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikWpW1i99N1Vs72ahY-hBssGuTaePiNWD=HkOV5@mail.gmail.com>
Without looking at the details, the passphrase/password is
basically hashed and hashing to concentrate entropy is
something that works very well.
So, no difference.
Incidentially, while 2.) has less entropy per bit, it does not
have less entropy per symbol (the whole password). If you
just say "entropy", in crypto that usually means the entropy of
the whole password/passphrase as it is perceived as one "symbol".
Confusing, I know and the respective communities all think
the usage is clear.
Arno
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:11:51PM -0400, Michael Matczynski wrote:
> For luksFormat, is there a difference in password strength between the
> following two passwords?
>
> 1.) <256bitsecret>
>
> 2.) <256bitsecret> | base64
>
> Does the use of PBKDF2 make the longer but less entropy password #2
> equivalent to #1?
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-19 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-18 20:11 [dm-crypt] luksFormat Password Entropy Michael Matczynski
2010-08-19 13:54 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2010-08-19 14:28 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-08-19 15:23 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-08-19 18:35 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-21 7:30 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-08-21 17:41 ` Arno Wagner
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