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From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] New Luks Format Specification (1.3)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:19:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120201081941.GA3750@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A4B905E0-1D6B-43A9-8703-01F8887986C8@das-labor.org>

Hi Zaolin,

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 08:59:10AM +0100, Philipp Deppenwiese wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i am Zaolin from the German hackerspace "Das Labor".

Never heard of it, sorry. 

> The last month I concentrated on how to change the luks specification to
> be state of the art.  Up to now we still use SHA-1 as default algorithm
> for PBKDF2 in luks.  

SHA-1 is not a security problem when used in this fashion.

> The next problem is the excessive use of parallel
> bruteforcing systems like ASIC, FPGA or GPUGPU technology.  A new key
> derivation function is needed in order to raise the complexity of
> bruteforce attacks against the luks key derivation function. 

No, it is not. At the very worst, a higher iteration count may
be needed, but that question involves a trade-off that is 
regularly discussed here, see the mailing-list archives.

> If someone
> sends me the *.tex file of the luks specification, i will update and post
> it for review.

I doubt there is need for that. Please post your cryptoanalytic
results here, so that we can have a look. If you are trying
for a large-memory key-derivation function, please note that
a) this was discussed here recently (if I remember correctly,
I do remember that I was in some discussion about it and that
the large-memory property was doubtful at best) and that 
b) it is unclear whether a large memory property, if 
ensured, will even help.

Also note that against a determined or hogh-ressource attacker, 
the only help is a high-entropy passphrase, as has been discussed 
on this list several times and is clearly stated in the FAQ.

Arno
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Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno@wagner.name 
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----
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are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled 
with doubt and indecision. -- Bertrand Russell 

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-01  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-01  7:59 [dm-crypt] New Luks Format Specification (1.3) Philipp Deppenwiese
2012-02-01  8:19 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2012-02-01  9:23 ` Milan Broz

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