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From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Impossible task ?
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:58:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141216155850.GA736@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <549023F9.5000708@TechServSys.com>

Hi,

not really a topic for this list, but I will answer anyways.

No, you cannot do this. Proof idea: If you can do lookup, 
you can break the encryption by checking whether a person is 
in there via the lookup functionality.

Sure, if you only allow proper partial names, the attacker 
does not get the last character of the name, but that does 
not help much. There are not enough names in the world to
make this attack too costly, and the attacker can do it 
character-by-character by using longer and longer partial
names.

The thing is that the possibility of lookup directly
implies the data is _not_ protected against reading it.

Gr"usse,
Arno


On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 13:22:17 CET, bill wrote:
> I have conflicting needs and fear that they may be unresolvable.
> I. I need to store patient names (3 fields: last, first, middle
> initial) with the first and last names encrypted.
> 2. I need to be able to do partial name lookups if the user enters a
> partial first or last name.
> 
> I presume that after encryption the names are no longer in
> alphabetical order, so looking up using an encrypted partial name
> will not result in a set of names beginning with that partial name.
> 
> Is there an approach to this, or need I go back to my boss and
> suggest "plan B."
> 
> -- 
> Bill Drescher
> william {at} TechServSys {dot} com
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-16 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16 12:22 [dm-crypt] Impossible task ? bill
2014-12-16 15:58 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2014-12-16 22:26   ` Quentin Lefebvre

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