From: dennis@basis.uklinux.net
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] plain: opening with a wrong password
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:01:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150206140140.GA16920@dashborg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150205235135.GA21304@tansi.org>
On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:51:35AM +0100, Arno Wagner wrote:
> If your passphrase is weak enough that a dictionary
> attack has a reasonable success of working (and a dictionary
> attack is the only thing the salt that hashalot adds helps
> against), then you are pretty deep in insecure territory and
> _need_ the hash iteration that LUKS provides, but which is
> missing from both plain and hashalot.
>
>...
>
> Please do not spread unsubstantiated rumors. It is hard enough
> these days for non-experts to decide what crypto to trust
> and what not. Rumors of the kind "metadata headers offer
> attack vectors" make this even worse.
Count me among the non-experts. I have two questions. (a) Wouldn't
metadata headers incur a loss of plausible deniablity compared to
plain mode, especially when an encrypted filesystem image is stored as
a single file on backup media or in the backing file for a loopback
device? (b) Assuming a secure passphrase, wouldn't plain mode be more
secure than luks against possible vulnerabilities in the hashing
algorithm that may be discovered in the future?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-06 14:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-04 12:33 [dm-crypt] plain: opening with a wrong password U.Mutlu
2015-02-04 13:02 ` Quentin Lefebvre
2015-02-04 13:30 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-05 11:54 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-05 13:53 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-05 14:04 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-05 23:51 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-06 14:01 ` dennis [this message]
2015-02-06 14:19 ` Michael
2015-02-06 14:47 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-06 18:27 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-07 17:27 ` dennis
2015-02-07 18:03 ` Heinz Diehl
2015-02-07 23:16 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2015-02-08 8:19 ` Heinz Diehl
2015-02-08 9:23 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-08 9:55 ` Milan Broz
2015-02-08 10:09 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-08 10:33 ` Milan Broz
2015-02-09 3:13 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-08 3:07 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-08 2:59 ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-06 14:04 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-06 18:20 ` Arno Wagner
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