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From: Heinz Diehl <htd+ml@fritha.org>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] plain: opening with a wrong password
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:19:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150208081954.GA2856@fritha.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150207231624.GA23872@citd.de>

On 08.02.2015, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: 

> > You need something to compare the passphrase to, and that's the hash.
> > How would you check the validity of the entered passphrase otherwise?
> > A plain text comparison is obviously impossible.
 
> With Plain the password can't be verified, the dm-crypt device is setup 
> and if the password was wrong, the "decrypted" device contains garbage.
> Containers usually have a means to test if the password is correct, 
> plain does not.

I tried to keep it simple in my example. Although you're (of course) right, I
didn't write about "plain encryption" or "plain dmcrypt", but plain text
comparison, in order to explain why there is the need for e.g. a hash.
As you point out, with plain dmcrypt the only possibility is actually
using the password and checking if the "decrypted" data based on it makes any sense.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-08  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-04 12:33 [dm-crypt] plain: opening with a wrong password U.Mutlu
2015-02-04 13:02 ` Quentin Lefebvre
2015-02-04 13:30   ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-05 11:54     ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-05 13:53       ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-05 14:04         ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-05 23:51           ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-06 14:01             ` dennis
2015-02-06 14:19               ` Michael
2015-02-06 14:47                 ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-06 18:27               ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-07 17:27                 ` dennis
2015-02-07 18:03                   ` Heinz Diehl
2015-02-07 23:16                     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2015-02-08  8:19                       ` Heinz Diehl [this message]
2015-02-08  9:23                         ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-08  9:55                           ` Milan Broz
2015-02-08 10:09                             ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-08 10:33                               ` Milan Broz
2015-02-09  3:13                             ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-08  3:07                     ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-08  2:59                   ` Arno Wagner
2015-02-06 14:04             ` U.Mutlu
2015-02-06 18:20               ` Arno Wagner

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