From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.saout.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.saout.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pBxOY_RM0RFd for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:25:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:25:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.20]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LcmCH-1TLnAO1cnv-00k3nO for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:25:11 +0100 Message-ID: <50D349F4.9030004@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:25:08 +0100 From: Markus Krainz MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <50D334DD.1060407@gmx.at> <20121220170358.GA9233@merlins.org> In-Reply-To: <20121220170358.GA9233@merlins.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Fwd: saout.de mailing list memberships reminder List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Marc MERLIN Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de Am 20.12.2012 18:03, schrieb Marc MERLIN: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 04:55:09PM +0100, Markus Krainz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I think the forwarded message speeks for itself :) > I used to be mailman admin for sourceforge, a few million folks just like > you. > I got so tired of answering mails like this one that I wrote an FAQ :) > > http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/mailman-password.txt > > Note, if you disagree, you are welcome to change your password further or > unsubscribe. > > Marc That's a nice FAQ. However most points are moot imho. The users that don't read instructions are the most vulnerable for this kind of practice because they tend to use same passwords every time and you'd rather not send their passwords if in doubt they read instructions. In any case I don't care too much from someone changing the subscription settings but it violates trust that users are used to when they put in a password. Maybe you do it for legal reasons but there's nothing about in the faq. So again it just seems odd. However you are of course free to do what you want with the lists and it seems it has been discussed extensively alrady. Best, Markus