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From: "msalists@gmx.net" <msalists@gmx.net>
To: "dm-crypt@saout.de" <dm-crypt@saout.de>
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Asustor NAS and cryptsetup 1.6.1
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:00:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54A1F924.2020500@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMw1ynThnx=D7yEx+B7AowZNnxs7OpeVkDsde-VUNiacfW2EEw@mail.gmail.com>

Haha - I had the same idea :-)
Unfortunately, it failed with something to the extend of "there are too 
many files for me to expand the wildcard over".
I'll try some different syntax later (like a for loop over a find or so)...

I asked support and they are forwarding to R&D, so we'll see what they 
say...

Mark


On 2014-12-29 16:37, Claudio Moretti wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> my 2c regarding 3.: you might try - if the NAS allows you to - cd to / and
>
> $ grep -rl YourPassword *
>
> I hope it doesn't work, but if it does at least you'll know where your 
> password is stored (in cleartext)...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Claudio
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM, msalists@gmx.net 
> <mailto:msalists@gmx.net> <msalists@gmx.net <mailto:msalists@gmx.net>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Arno,
>
>     thank you for your explanations
>
>
>             Furthermore, using "cryptsetup status EncTest.1" to show
>             some basics
>             about the created test container shows this:
>             /dev/mapper/EncTest.1 is active and is in use.
>                type:    PLAIN
>                cipher:  aes-cbc-plain
>                keysize: 256 bits
>                device:  /dev/loop0
>                loop:    /volume1/.@loopfiles/EncTest
>                offset:  0 sectors
>                size:    11619787984 sectors
>                mode:    read/write
>
>             Is this a plausible setup that makes sense, or is there
>             something
>             wrong with this default?
>
>         CBC-plain has a fingerprint-leackage issue (a specially prepared
>         file can be seen from outside the encryption without using the
>         key). Better use aes-cbc-essiv:sha256, the current default.
>
>     There are two things that are happening by means of the NAS web
>     admin interface: the creation (one-time) and the mounting (daily).
>     For creating the container, I could log into the ssh shell as root
>     and create the container manually and overwrite the default by
>     specifying aes-cbc-essiv:sha256
>     However, subsequently mounting the container should happen through
>     the web interface; doing it via ssh every time would be a pain.
>
>     Assuming I did create the container with aes-cbc-essiv:sha256;
>     would cryptsetup automatically figure out the correct parameters
>     when it is subsequently called without those parameters to mount
>     the container?
>     Or do non-default parameters at creation time require the same
>     non-default parameters again for subsequent mounts?
>
>             I have found out a few things that are making me a bit
>             nervous:
>             1. The initially created empty container is "huge": it
>             uses up 45GB
>             without me storing any data inside!
>
>         Why do you think this is an issue? This is block-device
>         encryption,
>         the container does not shrink or grow, it is created in its
>         final size.
>
>
>     Well, not an issue as in "a real problem"; it's just a waste of
>     space as I expect to never use more than 5% of that.
>     It also means that backups by means of just copying the entire
>     encrypted container file requires a lot more (again wasted) space
>     - or bandwidth in case of cloud storage.
>     I guess I could work around this issue again by manually creating
>     the container.
>
>
>             2. The management interface does not seem to offer any way
>             to create
>             or download backups of the encryption headers for backup
>             purposes as
>             suggested in
>             https://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#6._Backup_and_Data_Recovery.
>
>         PLAIN does not have headers. For that you need LUKS.
>
>     Ok, I guess if there arent any headers, then I don't need to worry
>     about backing them up or damaging them :-) . So as long as I don't
>     forget the password, I'll be fine...
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Mark
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-30  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-27  7:47 [dm-crypt] Asustor NAS and cryptsetup 1.6.1 msalists
2014-12-27 10:11 ` Arno Wagner
2014-12-29 19:06   ` msalists
2014-12-29 19:29     ` Quentin Lefebvre
2014-12-30  2:32       ` msalists
     [not found]         ` <20141230100413.GA11208@tansi.org>
2014-12-30 18:18           ` msalists
2014-12-30 19:16             ` Sven Eschenberg
2014-12-31  7:26             ` Arno Wagner
2014-12-30  0:37     ` Claudio Moretti
2014-12-30  1:00       ` msalists [this message]
2014-12-30  1:46         ` Arno Wagner
2014-12-30  2:11           ` msalists
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-12-27  3:49 msalists
2014-12-27  7:38 ` Arno Wagner

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