dm-devel.redhat.com archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Joe Thornber <thornber@redhat.com>
To: device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: About the thin provision function @ kernel 3.2 or later.
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:14:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120119091434.GA3942@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120117155930.GA11903@thunk.org>

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:59:30AM -0500, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:13:31AM +0000, Joe Thornber wrote:
> > iii) We add support to patch metadata changes into the running
> > metadata device.  This would allow us to map the origin directly into
> > the pools data device (eg, using a linear target).  And then introduce
> > a mapping for that origin.  This would mean the origin would appear as
> > a thin dev within the pool.
> 
> Have you considered just doing this part first?  If there's a way that
> an existing linear region could be considered a data source for a
> pool, then wouldn't you get full support of existing LVM2 volumes
> (read-only and read/write) for free, at one fell swoop?

Yes, this is the solution that I like best.  But I've only recently
thought of it whilst I coded up the thinp_dump and thin_restore tools.
Note that by using these tools and doing some manipulation of the
metadata you can do this today in an offline mode.

> Given that it's relatively rare that volume groups get moved, this
> could even be something which is done as a off-line conversion step so
> that existing LVM volumes are treated as "thin-provisioned voumes"
> that happened to be fully provisioned, with some flag so that a
> discard operation doesn't cause the blocks to be freed for use by some
> other thin-provisioned volume, but instead is propagated down to the
> hardware (for better SSD performance).

Certainly the discard support needs to do two things; release the
block and pass the discard down to the device.  Making the first part
optional sounds sensible to me.

- Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-19  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-16  1:27 About the thin provision function @ kernel 3.2 or later Yukihito HARA
2012-01-16 14:14 ` Mike Snitzer
2012-01-16 14:38 ` Joe Thornber
2012-01-16 15:59   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-17 10:13     ` Joe Thornber
2012-01-17 15:59       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-19  9:14         ` Joe Thornber [this message]
2012-01-27 16:04     ` Joe Thornber
2012-01-16 16:21 ` Heinz Mauelshagen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20120119091434.GA3942@ubuntu \
    --to=thornber@redhat.com \
    --cc=dm-devel@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).