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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: dm-mpath: do not change SCSI device handler
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:20:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130404142048.GB10208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1304040918460.17024@file.rdu.redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 04 2013 at  9:36am -0400,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 04 2013 at  8:55am -0400,
> > Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'll take a look at fixing this by deferring the scsi_dh switch until
> > > > resume.  This fix would assume multipath-tools is _not_ doing a noflush
> > > > suspend/resume when it is switching the scsi_dh.
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
> > > 
> > > This won't work because scsi_dh_attach allocates memory and you can't 
> > > allocate memory when something is suspended.
> > 
> > Ah yeah, scsi_dh->attach allocates memory for scsi_dh_data.  But
> > couldn't those scsi_dh_* attach allocations be switched from GFP_KERNEL
> > to GFP_NOIO?
> 
> Yes and no.
> 
> GFP_NOIO allocations don't issue any IO, so they have higher possibility 
> of failure - if the memory is full of user space pages or dirty file pages 
> and there are no clean cache pages, then GFP_NOIO allocation can't make 
> any progress and fails. GFP_KERNEL allocation could swap out some pages 
> and succeed.
> 
> On the other hand, kernel developers use GFP_NOIO allocations and assume 
> that they don't fail. And they don't fail most of the time. Although I 
> have seen cases where it failed and caused trouble - when allocating 
> inodes with GFP_NOIO under high memory stress. (the correct solution would 
> be to allocate the inode with GFP_KERNEL earlier, when we are not holding 
> any filesystem lock).
> 
> >From the point of formal correctness, relying on GFP_NOIO is wrong, but if 
> the allocated space is small and it happens infrequently (only on 
> activation), you can likely get away with it without being caught.

I'm suggesting that switching the scsi_dh is not something that will be
done on a system that is suffering from serious memory contention.

But I think we need to get back to analyzing the scsi_dh change you
mentioned before with tracking counts, etc.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-04 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-03  0:04 [PATCH] dm-mpath: do not change SCSI device handler Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-03 13:32 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-03 20:54   ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-04  6:47 ` [PATCH] " Hannes Reinecke
2013-04-04 12:24   ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-04 12:55     ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-04 13:16       ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-04 13:36         ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-04 14:20           ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2013-04-04 15:13             ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-04 15:38               ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-08 21:50         ` [PATCH 1/2] [SCSI] scsi_dh: add scsi_dh_alloc_data Mike Snitzer
2013-04-08 21:50           ` [PATCH 2/2] dm mpath: attach scsi_dh during table resume Mike Snitzer
2013-04-22 22:33             ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-25 13:48               ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-25 14:17                 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-25 14:50                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-25 15:27                     ` Bryn M. Reeves
2013-04-25 15:37                       ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-25 15:44                         ` Bryn M. Reeves
2013-04-25 15:31                     ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-26  6:05                       ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-04-26 13:29                         ` Mike Snitzer

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