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From: "Benjamin Marzinski" <bmarzins@redhat.com>
To: Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>
Cc: Guan Junxiong <guanjunxiong@huawei.com>, dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] path latency prio fixes
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 14:49:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171208204912.GA5638@octiron.msp.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1511169062.25459.37.camel@suse.com>

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:11:02AM +0100, Martin Wilck wrote:
> Hi Guan,
> 
> while staring at this code the other day, I realized another possible
> issue with your latency prioritizer. 
> 
> It will cause significant IO to every path of a map during multipath /
> multipathd startup. If any paths really have latencies as long as your
> patch considers (up to 100s), or worse if they don't respond at all,
> startup may be *massively* delayed or may even never complete. So if we
> a storage with two mirrors with a fast and a slow leg (I reckon that's
> the scenario this patch was made for), and if we're out of luck and the
> slow leg is probed first, we may end up in a situation where the fast
> leg, which may be fully up and healthy, is never set up (or with big
> delay) because multipathd keeps waiting for the slow leg to respond.
> 
> Similar delays can occur whenever pathinfo(..., DI_PRIO) is called.
> Unless I'm overlooking something essential here, that's a really
> dangerous thing to do. I believe that before activating this prio
> checker for  everyone, we need find a way to avoid this scenario. 
> 
> By using aio with a reasonable timeout for the latency check rather
> then sync IO, we could at least set an upper limit for the time
> get_prio takes. That would be a first step. But I don't think that
> would be sufficient. 
> 
> What we'd really need is an asynchronous priority checker, similar to
> the asynchronous path checker. The get_prio() call would return
> immediately with some special return code indicating to the caller that
> a priority check is running the background. A preliminary prio would be
> set for the path in pathinfo(), and multipathd would re-check later (or
> get some sort of event) when the priority check has actually been done.
> An open question is what multipathd should do wrt path grouping if it
> only has preliminary prio values, in particular with group_by_prio.

Yeah, you're right. Something like this is necessary. We could have the
prioritizers work like the checkers and have them include a context,
that the checkers can use to save data.  Then could make this work like
the directio checker, with its async calls.

> Putting Hannes and Ben on CC because I'd like to get their opinion,
> too.
> 
> Regards
> Martin
> 
> -- 
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> SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton
> HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-08 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-18  0:11 [PATCH 0/4] path latency prio fixes Martin Wilck
2017-11-18  0:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] libmultipath: path latency: fix default base num Martin Wilck
2017-11-19  2:19   ` Guan Junxiong
2017-11-18  0:11 ` [PATCH 2/4] libmultipath: path latency: log threshold with p2 Martin Wilck
2017-11-19  2:23   ` Guan Junxiong
2017-11-18  0:11 ` [PATCH 3/4] libmultipath: path latency: simplify getprio() Martin Wilck
2017-11-19  2:52   ` Guan Junxiong
2017-11-20  8:46     ` Martin Wilck
2017-12-07  4:26   ` Guan Junxiong
2017-12-07 15:56     ` Martin Wilck
2017-11-18  0:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] libmultipath: path latency: remove warnings Martin Wilck
2017-11-19  3:00   ` Guan Junxiong
2017-11-20  9:11 ` [PATCH 0/4] path latency prio fixes Martin Wilck
2017-12-08 20:49   ` Benjamin Marzinski [this message]
     [not found] <06F84A57D601574CAA706EE1A6270A5F01039517@DGGEMM505-MBX.china.huawei.com>
2017-12-04 14:23 ` Guan Junxiong
2017-12-04 15:11   ` Martin Wilck
2017-12-05  0:23     ` Guan Junxiong

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