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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	wagi@monom.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [patch 2/4] swait: export the symbols __prepare_to_swait and __finish_swait
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 11:10:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180523151011.GA30696@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180523092101.GW12217@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, May 23 2018 at  5:21am -0400,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 02:52:54PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Tue, May 22 2018 at  2:34am -0400,
> > Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > > Please CC the author and maintainers of the swait code.
> > > 
> > > My impression is that this is the wrong thing to do.  The swait code
> > > is supposed to be simple and self contained, and if you want to do
> > > anything else use normal waitqueues.
> > 
> > You said the same thing last time around.  I've since cc'd Peter and
> > Thomas and haven't heard back, see:
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/dm-devel/2018-May/msg00048.html
> 
> Yeah, sorry, got lost :/

np

> > The entire point of exporting these symbols is to allow use of the
> > "simple waitqueue" code to optimize -- without resorting to using normal
> > waitqueues.
> 
> So I don't immediately object to exporting them; however I do share some
> of hch's concerns. The reason swait exists is to be deterministic (for
> RT) -- something that regular wait code cannot be.
> 
> And by (ab)using / exporting the wait internal lock you risk loosing
> that. So I don't think the proposed usage is bad, it is possible to
> create badness.

Understood.

> So if we're going to export them; someone needs to keep an eye on things
> and ensure the lock isn't abused.

I'll update the patch header and swait.h to reflect these requirements
and send out a new patch.

If you could then reply with your explicit Ack I can stage it for 4.18
via linux-dm.git to ease cross tree dependencies (given dm-writecache
depends on these exports) -- provided you're OK with me doing that.

Thanks,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-23 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-19  5:25 [patch 0/4] dm-writecache patches Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 1/4] x86: optimize memcpy_flushcache Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-19 14:21   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-24 18:20     ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2018-06-18 13:23       ` [PATCH v2 RESEND] " Mike Snitzer
2018-06-21 14:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-06-22  1:19           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22  1:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-08-08 21:22               ` [PATCH v3 " Mikulas Patocka
2018-09-10 13:18                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-11  6:22                 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm: Optimize memcpy_flushcache() tip-bot for Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 2/4] swait: export the symbols __prepare_to_swait and __finish_swait Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-22  6:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-22 18:52     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-23  9:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-23 15:10         ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2018-05-23 18:10           ` [PATCH v2] swait: export " Mike Snitzer
2018-05-23 20:38             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-23 21:51               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-24 14:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-24 15:09               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 3/4] dm-writecache Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-22  6:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 4/4] dm-writecache: use new API for flushing Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]   ` <20180519052635.567438191-59tzFEB+POEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22  6:39     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20180522063946.GB8054-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 18:41         ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]           ` <20180522184103.GA25826-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 19:00             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]               ` <CAPcyv4g395RccdEPF=sCu5RdCH9zwD+GvOfSp7-F0Oh64CeDgA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 19:19                 ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                   ` <20180522191942.GB25904-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 19:27                     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                       ` <CAPcyv4hWswV=VCfB7KatoW_zc-kUUju2jD45N-Gsg4sW-XFe-A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 20:52                         ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                           ` <20180522205214.GA26259-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-22 22:53                             ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
     [not found]                               ` <x49r2m3nvyk.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-23 20:57                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-28 13:52                         ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805280943460.16538-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-28 17:41                             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                               ` <CAPcyv4gxCNqqG2G3R6f=kH3zNbByhgE2R-trJWurH49-p+51Gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:42                                 ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
     [not found]                                   ` <x49h8mpmf8v.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:51                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:52                                     ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-24  8:15                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-25  3:12   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-25  6:17     ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805250213270.13894-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-25 12:51         ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]           ` <20180525125126.GA9275-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-25 15:57             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]               ` <CAPcyv4j-v5HGBg9JMBXt7UUyw=K_bGC7t5tQGfXM9G4qjOpFjQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-26  7:02                 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805260246250.15978-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-26 15:26                     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                       ` <CAPcyv4jwLsCNvNhgvv2DDSZuQsQXYEpKUU_5w1pTnyKj-uDBbQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-28 13:32                         ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805280922190.13486-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-28 18:14                             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                               ` <CAPcyv4jXV4aZ6wqqjVPL8J4LxwTtXnzQCLZ0Wk5oB4_0uxpg7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:07                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805300903220.1090-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:16                                     ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                       ` <20180530131623.GB2106-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:21                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805300919070.11327-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:26                                             ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                               ` <20180530132647.GB5157-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:33                                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                                   ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805300929500.11327-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 13:54                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                                       ` <20180530135421.GA81788-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 14:09                                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                                           ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805300959460.16696-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 14:21                                                             ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                                               ` <20180530142104.GA5416-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 14:46                                                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                                                   ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805301023380.21890-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31  3:42                                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20180531034216.GB88973-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-03 15:03                                                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31  3:39                                                             ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                                               ` <20180531033919.GA88973-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31  8:16                                                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                                                   ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805310412240.30096-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31 12:09                                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 15:58                                     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                                       ` <CAPcyv4j3pDQ3YMK5Eije0dgGw+1CQYazPJ-zvqfvGF-9O_gVJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30 22:39                                         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                                           ` <CAPcyv4gD-ZaXyV1SFAndobUYJOGLkx9rOyb5zNbzJXB_kVCzoA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31  8:19                                             ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                               ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805310416540.30096-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31 14:51                                                 ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAPcyv4gzFbdBbUhPJ6W4mTJWAkvqVw_4FVhVdePEJzc28Sg-Sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31 15:31                                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                                       ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805311127001.31059-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-31 16:39                                                         ` Dan Williams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-05-30 13:16 [PATCH 2/4] swait: export the symbols __prepare_to_swait and __finish_swait Mikulas Patocka

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