From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org"
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Mikulas Patocka
<mpatocka-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: Snapshot target and DAX-capable devices
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:50:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212175047.GA24962@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212161254.GA20790-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Dec 12 2018 at 11:12am -0500,
Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Does it really make sense to enhance dm-snapshot? I thought all serious
> users of snapshots had moved on to dm-thinp?
There are cases where dm-snapshot is still useful for people. But those
are very niche users. I'm not opposed to others proposing enhancements
for dm-snapshot in general but it is definitely not a priority (Google's
dm-bow is an example of a case where dm-snapshot may get extended to
fulfill google's needs).
But for this specific DAX case, I can only assume efforts to prop up
dm-snapshot like this are born out of legacy use-cases. The reality is
getting DAX to work with dm-snapshot is pretty involved (due to mmap,
etc). This thread got into a lot of the details:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/dm-devel/2018-August/msg00211.html
So any new attempt to reintroduce DAX support to dm-snapshot (or any
more complex DM target) will have a very high bar. One that requires
much more extensive mm and block (interlock) prep work to make DAX
safe.
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-12 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-27 16:07 Snapshot target and DAX-capable devices Jan Kara
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2018-08-27 16:43 ` Kani, Toshi
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2018-08-28 7:50 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20180828075025.GA17756-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-28 17:56 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20180828175630.GA1197-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-28 22:38 ` Kani, Toshi
2018-08-30 9:30 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20180830093028.GC1767-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-30 18:49 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20180830184907.GA14867-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-30 19:32 ` Jeff Moyer
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2018-08-30 19:47 ` Mikulas Patocka
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1808301545200.30950-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-30 19:53 ` Jeff Moyer
2018-08-30 23:38 ` Dave Chinner
2018-08-31 9:42 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 1:25 ` Dave Chinner
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2018-12-12 16:11 ` Huaisheng Ye
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2018-12-12 16:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2018-12-12 17:50 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
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2018-12-12 19:49 ` Kani, Toshi
2018-12-12 21:15 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
[not found] ` <20181212211547.GA24926-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12 22:43 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20181212224321.GA2902-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-14 4:11 ` [dm-devel] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-12-14 8:24 ` [External] " Huaisheng HS1 Ye
[not found] ` <HK2PR03MB441871946735DE9EE714D10B92A10-LG58XzHXFHCi7fCZ8j4jr682SN/2zMuYvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-18 19:49 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-08-30 19:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.02.1808301537420.30950-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-31 10:01 ` Jan Kara
2018-08-30 22:55 ` Dave Chinner
2018-08-31 9:54 ` Jan Kara
2018-08-30 19:17 ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
[not found] ` <x498t4naclf.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-31 9:14 ` Jan Kara
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