From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
"dm-devel@lists.linux.dev" <dm-devel@lists.linux.dev>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] block: track zone conditions
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 07:53:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83b60505-64a4-40fe-aa50-02a56ca7ad8c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6008fbc8-b556-46d9-98a5-a4622731d206@nvidia.com>
On 11/4/25 01:34, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
> Adding Keith's current email address :
> 's/Keith Busch <keith.busch@wdc.com>/kbusch@kernel.org/g'
>
> On 11/3/25 7:48 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On 11/2/25 10:05 PM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>> On 11/1/25 06:17, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>>> On 10/30/25 11:13 PM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>>> Implement tracking of the runtime changes to zone conditions using
>>>>> the new cond field in struct blk_zone_wplug. The size of this
>>>>> structure
>>>>> remains 112 Bytes as the new field replaces the 4 Bytes padding at the
>>>>> end of the structure. For zones that do not have a zone write plug,
>>>>> the
>>>>> zones_cond array of a disk is used to track changes to zone
>>>>> conditions,
>>>>> e.g. when a zone reset, reset all or finish operation is executed.
>>>>
>>>> Why is it necessary to track the condition of sequential zones that do
>>>> not have a zone write plug? Please explain what the use cases are.
>>>
>>> Because zones that do not have a zone write plug can be empty OR full.
>>
>> Why does the block layer have to track this information? Filesystems can
>> easily derive this information from the filesystem metadata information,
>> isn't it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bart.
>>
>
> In case current file systems store this, isn't that a code duplication for each
> fs ? perhaps having a central interface at block layer should help remove the
> code duplication ?
catch 22: You cannot ask the file system without first knowing the zone layout
and conditions of zone to check the file system metadata.
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-03 22:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-31 6:12 [PATCH 00/13] Introduce cached report zones Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 6:12 ` [PATCH 01/13] block: freeze queue when updating zone resources Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 17:48 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 5:55 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 7:18 ` Daniel Vacek
2025-11-03 7:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 7:30 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 11:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-31 6:12 ` [PATCH 02/13] block: cleanup blkdev_report_zones() Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 17:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 11:15 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-31 6:12 ` [PATCH 03/13] block: handle zone management operations completions Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 18:01 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 6:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 11:41 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-11-03 12:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 6:12 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: introduce disk_report_zone() Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 20:54 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 5:56 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 6:12 ` [PATCH 05/13] block: reorganize struct blk_zone_wplug Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 20:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 06/13] block: use zone condition to determine conventional zones Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 21:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 6:00 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 07/13] block: track zone conditions Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 21:17 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 6:05 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 15:48 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 16:34 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-03 22:53 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2025-11-04 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-03 18:31 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 22:34 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 22:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 08/13] block: introduce blkdev_get_zone_info() Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 21:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 6:08 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 10:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 09/13] block: introduce blkdev_report_zones_cached() Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 21:53 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 6:12 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 7:18 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 10/13] block: introduce BLKREPORTZONESV2 ioctl Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 16:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-03 5:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-11-03 10:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 11/13] block: add zone write plug condition to debugfs zone_wplugs Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 21:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 12/13] btrfs: use blkdev_report_zones_cached() Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 19:01 ` David Sterba
2025-10-31 6:13 ` [PATCH 13/13] xfs: " Damien Le Moal
2025-10-31 8:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
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