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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
	Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DEVICE-MAPPER (LVM)" <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] block: directly insert blk-mq request from blk_insert_cloned_request()
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:34:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f45a0a00-e349-321c-d341-150e5d85a5d6@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVMexXXtFi8zTHYsOjCFpguhBHUMoAP45wFmB80vou=YZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/14/2017 10:33 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>> On 09/14/2017 09:57 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2017 03:13 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11 2017 at  4:51pm -0400,
>>>>> Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/11/2017 10:16 AM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>>>>>>> Here is v2 that should obviate the need to rename blk_mq_insert_request
>>>>>>> (by using bools to control run_queue and async).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for inserting directly into dispatch, if that can be done that is
>>>>>>> great but I'd prefer to have that be a follow-up optimization.  This
>>>>>>> fixes the regression in question, and does so in well-known terms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it looks reasonable. My only concern is the use of the software
>>>>>> queues. Depending on the scheduler, they may or may not be used. I'd
>>>>>> need to review the code, but my first thought is that this would break
>>>>>> if you use blk_mq_insert_request() on a device that is managed by
>>>>>> mq-deadline or bfq, for instance. Schedulers are free to use the
>>>>>> software queues, but they are also free to ignore them and use internal
>>>>>> queuing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at the code, looks like this was changed slightly at some point,
>>>>>> we always flush the software queues, if any of them contain requests. So
>>>>>> it's probably fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK good, but is that too brittle to rely on? Something that might change
>>>>> in the future?
>>>>
>>>> I'm actually surprised we do flush software queues for that case, since
>>>> we don't always have to. So it is a bit of a wart. If we don't have a
>>>> scheduler, software queues is where IO goes. If we have a scheduler, the
>>>> scheduler has complete control of where to queue IO. Generally, the
>>>> scheduler will either utilize the software queues or it won't, there's
>>>> nothing in between.
>>>>
>>>> I know realize I'm an idiot and didn't read it right. So here's the code
>>>> in question:
>>>>
>>>> const bool has_sched_dispatch = e && e->type->ops.mq.dispatch_request;
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> } else if (!has_sched_dispatch) {
>>>>         blk_mq_flush_busy_ctxs(hctx, &rq_list);
>>>>         blk_mq_dispatch_rq_list(q, &rq_list);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> so we do only enter sw queue flushing, if we don't have a scheduler with
>>>> a dispatch_request hook. So now I am really wondering how your patch
>>>> could work if the bottom device has bfq or mq-deadline attached?
>>>>
>>>>>> My earlier suggestion to use just hctx->dispatch for the IO and bypass
>>>>>> the software queues completely. The use case for the dispatch list is
>>>>>> the same, regardless of whether the device has a scheduler attached or
>>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm missing how these details relate to the goal of bypassing any
>>>>> scheduler that might be attached.  Are you saying the attached elevator
>>>>> would still get in the way?
>>>>
>>>> See above.
>>>>
>>>>> Looking at blk_mq_sched_insert_request(), submission when an elevator
>>>>> isn't attached is exactly what I made blk_mq_insert_request() do
>>>>> (which is exactly what it did in the past).
>>>>
>>>> Right, but that path is only used if we don't have a scheduler attached.
>>>> So while the code will use that path IFF a scheduler isn't attached to
>>>> that device, your use case will use it for both cases.
>>>>
>>>>> In the case of DM multipath, nothing else should be submitting IO to
>>>>> the device so elevator shouldn't be used -- only interface for
>>>>> submitting IO would be blk_mq_insert_request().  So even if a
>>>>> scheduler is attached it should be bypassed right?
>>>>
>>>> The problem is the usage of the sw queue.
>>>>
>>>> Does the below work for you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/block/blk-core.c b/block/blk-core.c
>>>> index d709c0e3a2ac..aebe676225e6 100644
>>>> --- a/block/blk-core.c
>>>> +++ b/block/blk-core.c
>>>> @@ -2342,7 +2342,12 @@ blk_status_t blk_insert_cloned_request(struct request_queue *q, struct request *
>>>>         if (q->mq_ops) {
>>>>                 if (blk_queue_io_stat(q))
>>>>                         blk_account_io_start(rq, true);
>>>> -               blk_mq_sched_insert_request(rq, false, true, false, false);
>>>> +               /*
>>>> +                * Since we have a scheduler attached on the top device,
>>>> +                * bypass a potential scheduler on the bottom device for
>>>> +                * insert.
>>>> +                */
>>>> +               blk_mq_request_bypass_insert(rq);
>>>>                 return BLK_STS_OK;
>>>>         }
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/block/blk-mq.c b/block/blk-mq.c
>>>> index 3f18cff80050..98a18609755e 100644
>>>> --- a/block/blk-mq.c
>>>> +++ b/block/blk-mq.c
>>>> @@ -1401,6 +1401,22 @@ void __blk_mq_insert_request(struct blk_mq_hw_ctx *hctx, struct request *rq,
>>>>         blk_mq_hctx_mark_pending(hctx, ctx);
>>>>  }
>>>>
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * Should only be used carefully, when the caller knows we want to
>>>> + * bypass a potential IO scheduler on the target device.
>>>> + */
>>>> +void blk_mq_request_bypass_insert(struct request *rq)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       struct blk_mq_ctx *ctx = rq->mq_ctx;
>>>> +       struct blk_mq_hw_ctx *hctx = blk_mq_map_queue(rq->q, ctx->cpu);
>>>> +
>>>> +       spin_lock(&hctx->lock);
>>>> +       list_add_tail(&rq->queuelist, &hctx->dispatch);
>>>> +       spin_unlock(&hctx->lock);
>>>> +
>>>> +       blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx, false);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Hello Jens and Mike,
>>>
>>> This patch sends flush request to ->dispatch directly too, which changes the
>>> previous behaviour, is that OK for dm-rq?
>>
>> That's a good question, I need to look into that. The flush behavior is so
>> annoying. Did you make any progress on fixing up the patch you posted the
>> other day on treating flushes like any other request?
> 
> It has been ready, will post it out later.

OK good, if that's clean enough, then I think going that route is a much
better idea than introducing more flush/not-flush logic. I liked the
initial patch from a concept point of view, and it enables us to get rid
of a few nasty hacks.

-- 
Jens Axboe

      reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1503611578.2899.69.camel@wdc.com>
     [not found] ` <AE77899A-0365-4C7C-91E4-5ACCC396B26B@linaro.org>
     [not found]   ` <ED23C7AC-F202-40E3-8421-E714BF446399@linaro.org>
     [not found]     ` <1504620914.4135.11.camel@wdc.com>
2017-09-07 15:52       ` BFQ + dm-mpath Mike Snitzer
2017-09-08  9:13         ` Paolo Valente
2017-09-08 16:41           ` [PATCH] dm mpath: switch IO scheduler of underlying paths to "none" [was: Re: BFQ + dm-mpath] Mike Snitzer
2017-09-08 16:48             ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-08 17:07               ` Mike Snitzer
2017-09-08 19:58                 ` Mike Snitzer
2017-09-08 20:28                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-08 21:42                     ` [PATCH] block: directly insert blk-mq request from blk_insert_cloned_request() Mike Snitzer
2017-09-08 21:50                       ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-08 22:03                         ` Mike Snitzer
2017-09-11 16:16                           ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2017-09-11 20:51                             ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-11 21:13                               ` Mike Snitzer
2017-09-11 21:27                                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-11 21:51                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2017-09-11 22:30                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2017-09-11 22:43                                       ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-14 15:57                                   ` Ming Lei
2017-09-14 16:30                                     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-14 16:33                                       ` Ming Lei
2017-09-14 16:34                                         ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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