From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: correctmost <cmlists@sent.com>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, regressions@lists.linux.dev,
vkoul@kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION][BISECTED] Lenovo IdeaPad touchpad does not work when idma64 is present in initramfs
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 18:52:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWUm6DLDADMX1m-H@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWUGmfcjWpFJs3-X@smile.fi.intel.com>
+Cc: Mika
On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 04:35:08PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 12:57:10PM -0500, correctmost wrote:
>
> > The following commit
>
> No, it's false positive. The reality is that something else is going on
> there on this and other similar laptops.
>
> > causes my Lenovo IdeaPad touchpad not to work when
> > kernel/drivers/dma/idma64.ko.zst is present in the initramfs image:
> >
> > #regzbot introduced: 9140ce47872bfd89fca888c2f992faa51d20c2bc
> >
> > "idma64: Don't try to serve interrupts when device is powered off"
>
> So, the touchpad is an I²C device, which is connected to an Intel SoC.
> The I²C host controller is Synopsys DesignWare. On Intel SoCs the above
> mentioned IP is generated with private DMA engine, that's called Intel
> iDMA 64-bit. Basically it's two devices under a single PCI hood.
> The problem here is that when PCI device is in D3, both devices are
> powered off, but something sends an interrupt and it's not recognized
> being the one, send by a device (touchpad).
>
> There is one of the following potential issues (or their combinations):
>
> - the I²C host controller hardware got off too early
> - the line is shared with something else that generates interrupt storm
> - the BIOS does weird (wrong) things at a boot time, like not properly
> shutting down and disabling interrupt sources; also may have wrong
> pin control settings
> - the touchpad is operating on higher frequency like 400kHz (because
> BIOS told to use that one instead of 100kHz) than the HW is designed
> for and hence unreliable with all possible side effects
> - the touchpad firmware behaves wrongly on some sequences (see also
> note about the bus speed above), try to upgrade touchpad FW
>
> With my experience with the case of the above mentioned commit that it
> may be BIOS thingy. Also consider the bus speed, there are quirks in
> the kernel for that.
>
> > Here are the related logs:
> >
> > ---
> >
> > irq 27: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
>
> Almost all below is not so interesting.
>
> ...
>
> > handlers:
> > [<00000000104a7621>] idma64_irq [idma64]
> > [<00000000bd8d08e9>] i2c_dw_isr
> > Disabling IRQ #27
>
> Yes, this line at least shared between those two and might be more.
>
> ...
>
> > i2c_designware i2c_designware.0: controller timed out
> > hid (null): reading report descriptor failed
> > i2c_hid_acpi i2c-ELAN06FA:00: can't add hid device: -110
> > i2c_hid_acpi i2c-ELAN06FA:00: probe with driver i2c_hid_acpi failed with error -110
>
> Yes, sounds familiar with the speed settings. Try to down it to 100kHz in case
> it's confirmed to be 400kHz.
>
> > ---
> >
> > Hardware info:
> > - Lenovo 16" IdeaPad Slim 5 - 16IRU9
> > - Hardware name: LENOVO 83FW/LNVNB161216, BIOS PFCN14WW 09/20/2024
> > - ELAN06FA:00 04F3:327E Touchpad
> >
> > Steps to reproduce:
> > - Cold boot the laptop on Arch Linux
> >
> > The bug is still present with the 6.19.0-rc1-1-git kernel.
> >
> > The bisected commit is from March 2024, but I only recently noticed the issue
> > because the initramfs images on Arch Linux now include these additional
> > drivers (as of November 2025):
> > - kernel/drivers/dma/idma64.ko.zst
> > - kernel/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss-pci.ko.zst
> > - kernel/drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.ko.zst
> >
> > Two other users have reported the issue on the Arch Linux and CachyOS forums,
>
> Any pointers to that thread, please?
>
> > so I don't think this is a hardware issue with my individual laptop.
>
> I don't know how this conclusion is came here. You mean HW as laptop model?
> But are the involved components the same (I²C host controller + touchpad)?
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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2025-12-16 17:57 [REGRESSION][BISECTED] Lenovo IdeaPad touchpad does not work when idma64 is present in initramfs correctmost
2026-01-12 14:35 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12 16:52 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2026-01-15 22:50 ` correctmost
2026-01-16 10:03 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-16 10:35 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-17 0:25 ` correctmost
2026-01-19 10:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-19 10:49 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-20 9:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-21 4:56 ` correctmost
2026-01-21 9:13 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-21 13:58 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-01-21 14:54 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-21 15:02 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-01-21 15:19 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-22 11:00 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-01-22 22:29 ` correctmost
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2026-01-26 13:53 ` Mika Westerberg
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2026-01-27 14:43 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-01-27 15:09 ` Andy Shevchenko
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2026-01-23 6:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-28 9:34 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-28 10:21 ` correctmost
2026-01-28 12:31 ` Mika Westerberg
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