Re: [REGRESSION][BISECTED] Lenovo IdeaPad touchpad does not work when idma64 is present in initramfs

[Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 05:50:36PM -0500, correctmost wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026, at 9:35 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 12:57:10PM -0500, correctmost wrote:
> >
> >> The following commit
> >
> > No, it's false positive. The reality is that something else is going on
> > there on this and other similar laptops.
> >
> >> causes my Lenovo IdeaPad touchpad not to work when
> >> kernel/drivers/dma/idma64.ko.zst is present in the initramfs image:
> >> 
> >> #regzbot introduced: 9140ce47872bfd89fca888c2f992faa51d20c2bc
> >> 
> >> "idma64: Don't try to serve interrupts when device is powered off"
> >
> > So, the touchpad is an I²C device, which is connected to an Intel SoC.
> > The I²C host controller is Synopsys DesignWare. On Intel SoCs the above
> > mentioned IP is generated with private DMA engine, that's called Intel
> > iDMA 64-bit. Basically it's two devices under a single PCI hood.
> > The problem here is that when PCI device is in D3, both devices are
> > powered off, but something sends an interrupt and it's not recognized
> > being the one, send by a device (touchpad).
> >
> > There is one of the following potential issues (or their combinations):
> >
> > - the I²C host controller hardware got off too early
> > - the line is shared with something else that generates interrupt storm
> > - the BIOS does weird (wrong) things at a boot time, like not properly
> >   shutting down and disabling interrupt sources; also may have wrong
> >   pin control settings
> > - the touchpad is operating on higher frequency like 400kHz (because
> >   BIOS told to use that one instead of 100kHz) than the HW is designed
> >   for and hence unreliable with all possible side effects
> > - the touchpad firmware behaves wrongly on some sequences (see also
> >   note about the bus speed above), try to upgrade touchpad FW
> >
> > With my experience with the case of the above mentioned commit that it
> > may be BIOS thingy. Also consider the bus speed, there are quirks in
> > the kernel for that.
> 
> Thank you for the detailed notes.  I will see if I can update my BIOS and
> experiment with different quirks values, though I won't be able to do that
> until late next week.

You're welcome!

> >> Here are the related logs:
> >> 
> >> ---
> >> 
> >> irq 27: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
> >
> > Almost all below is not so interesting.
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> handlers:
> >> [<00000000104a7621>] idma64_irq [idma64]
> >> [<00000000bd8d08e9>] i2c_dw_isr
> >> Disabling IRQ #27
> >
> > Yes, this line at least shared between those two and might be more.
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> i2c_designware i2c_designware.0: controller timed out
> >> hid (null): reading report descriptor failed
> >> i2c_hid_acpi i2c-ELAN06FA:00: can't add hid device: -110
> >> i2c_hid_acpi i2c-ELAN06FA:00: probe with driver i2c_hid_acpi failed with error -110
> >
> > Yes, sounds familiar with the speed settings. Try to down it to 100kHz in case
> > it's confirmed to be 400kHz.
> >
> >> ---
> >
> > Any pointers to that thread, please?
> 
> The following threads have users who were able to restore touchpad
> functionality by undoing the idma64 change in initramfs:

Yes, = "they have hidden the existing problem". No value in that, sorry.
What is the exact link that refer to the thread you previously mentioned?

...

> Lastly, I saw another bug report that mentions the "probe with driver
> i2c_hid_acpi failed with error -110" error.  It seems to state that the error
> only occurs when a power cable is connected during boot:
> 
> - https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/57094
>   - Huawei Matebook D15 BOD-WXX9-PCB-B4
>   - i2c-GXTP7863:00
> 
> >> so I don't think this is a hardware issue with my individual laptop.
> >
> > I don't know how this conclusion is came here. You mean HW as laptop model?
> > But are the involved components the same (I²C host controller + touchpad)?
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  I meant the individual machine in my possession and
> not the laptop model as a whole.

Yeah, something here is common and I can't say for sure this all about Synaptic
touchpads...

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With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko