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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Carew <alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Pablo de Lara
	<pablo.de.lara.guarch-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] VM Power Management
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:18:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10291528.MoKaz8pbFD@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <548732C9.2020201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

2014-12-09 18:35, Paolo Bonzini:
> >>>> Did you make any progress in Qemu/KVM community?
> >>>> We need to be sync'ed up with them to be sure we share the same goal.
> >>>> I want also to avoid using a solution which doesn't fit with their
> >>>> plan.
> >>>> Remember that we already had this problem with ivshmem which was
> >>>> planned to be dropped.
> >>> 
> >>> Unfortunately, I have not yet received any feedback:
> >>> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2014-11/msg01103.html
> >>
> >> Just to add to what Alan said above, this capability does not exist in
> >> qemu at the moment, and based on there having been no feedback on th
> >> qemu mailing list so far, I think it's reasonable to assume that it
> >> will not be implemented in the immediate future. The VM Power
> >> Management feature has also been designed to allow easy migration to a
> >> qemu-based solution when this is supported in future. Therefore, I'd
> >> be in favour of accepting this feature into DPDK now.
> >>
> >> It's true that the implementation is a work-around, but there have
> >> been similar cases in DPDK in the past. One recent example that comes
> >> to mind is userspace vhost. The original implementation could also be
> >> considered a work-around, but it met the needs of many in the
> >> community. Now, with support for vhost-user in qemu 2.1, that
> >> implementation is being improved. I'd see VM Power Management
> >> following a similar path when this capability is supported in qemu.
> 
> I wonder if this might be papering over a bug in the host cpufreq
> driver.  If the guest is not doing much and leaving a lot of idle CPU
> time, the host should scale down the frequency of that CPU.  In the case
> of pinned VCPUs this should really "just work".  What is the problem
> that is being solved?
> 
> Paolo

Alan, Pablo, please could you explain your logic with VM power management?

-- 
Thomas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-11 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-22 18:34 [PATCH 00/10] VM Power Management Alan Carew
     [not found] ` <1411410879-28872-1-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 04/10] " Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 05/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 06/10] Alternate implementation of librte_power " Alan Carew
     [not found]     ` <1411410879-28872-7-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 19:17       ` Neil Horman
     [not found]         ` <20140922191753.GH25406-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23  7:48           ` Carew, Alan
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 07/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 08/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 09/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34   ` [PATCH 10/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26   ` [PATCH v2 00/10] VM Power Management Alan Carew
     [not found]     ` <1411579576-21786-1-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Alan Carew
     [not found]         ` <1411579576-21786-8-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 10:10           ` Neil Horman
     [not found]             ` <20140925101003.GA32725-B26myB8xz7F8NnZeBjwnZQMhkBWG/bsMQH7oEaQurus@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 17:06               ` Carew, Alan
     [not found]                 ` <0E29434AEE0C3A4180987AB476A6F6306D278070-kPTMFJFq+rHjxeytcECX8bfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 17:49                   ` Neil Horman
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26       ` [PATCH v2 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Alan Carew
2014-09-25  2:56       ` [PATCH v2 00/10] VM Power Management Liu, Yong
2014-09-29 15:18       ` [PATCH v3 " Alan Carew
     [not found]         ` <1412003903-9061-1-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18           ` [PATCH v3 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Alan Carew
2014-09-29 17:29           ` [PATCH v3 00/10] VM Power Management Neil Horman
2014-10-12 19:36           ` [PATCH v4 " Alan Carew
     [not found]             ` <1413142571-23069-1-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Alan Carew
     [not found]                 ` <1413142571-23069-5-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-16 18:28                   ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36               ` [PATCH v4 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Alan Carew
2014-10-13  6:17               ` [PATCH v4 00/10] VM Power Management Liu, Yong
2014-10-13 20:26               ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-10-14 12:37                 ` Carew, Alan
     [not found]                   ` <0E29434AEE0C3A4180987AB476A6F6306D28093B-kPTMFJFq+rHjxeytcECX8bfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 15:03                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-10-16 15:21                       ` Carew, Alan
     [not found]                         ` <0E29434AEE0C3A4180987AB476A6F6306D2811AD-kPTMFJFq+rHjxeytcECX8bfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-28 15:21                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-11-10  9:05                             ` Carew, Alan
     [not found]                               ` <0E29434AEE0C3A4180987AB476A6F6306D28E7DF-kPTMFJFq+rHjxeytcECX8bfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-10 17:54                                 ` O'driscoll, Tim
     [not found]                                   ` <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA54C4BD63-kPTMFJFq+rFP9JyJpTNKArfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 23:51                                     ` Zhu, Heqing
2014-11-22 17:17                                     ` Vincent JARDIN
     [not found]                                       ` <5470C514.3080307-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 17:35                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]                                           ` <548732C9.2020201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-11 23:18                                             ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2014-12-12 13:00                                               ` Carew, Alan
2014-12-12 14:50                                                 ` [dpdk-dev] " Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]                                                   ` <548B00B3.8040201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12 16:10                                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-12-12 16:13                                                       ` [dpdk-dev] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 17:42               ` [PATCH v5 00/10] Virtual Machine " Pablo de Lara
     [not found]                 ` <1416591732-3735-1-git-send-email-pablo.de.lara.guarch-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42                   ` [PATCH v5 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                   ` [PATCH v6 00/10] Virtual Machine Power Management Pablo de Lara
     [not found]                     ` <1416932291-13162-1-git-send-email-pablo.de.lara.guarch-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
     [not found]                         ` <1416932291-13162-2-git-send-email-pablo.de.lara.guarch-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-29 15:21                           ` Neil Horman
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18                       ` [PATCH v6 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Pablo de Lara
2014-11-26 16:41                       ` [PATCH v6 00/10] Virtual Machine Power Management Thomas Monjalon
2014-11-10  9:19           ` [PATCH v2] librte_cmdline: FreeBSD Fix oveflow when size of command result structure is greater than BUFSIZ Alan Carew
     [not found]             ` <1415611146-32368-1-git-send-email-alan.carew-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05 14:16               ` Olivier MATZ
     [not found]                 ` <5481BE26.9080903-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05 14:19                   ` [PATCH v3] " Olivier Matz
     [not found]                     ` <1417789147-5636-1-git-send-email-olivier.matz-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05 15:51                       ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-05 15:58                         ` Thomas Monjalon

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