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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Shani Peretz <shperetz@nvidia.com>,
	viacheslavo@nvidia.com,  bruce.richardson@intel.com,
	stephen@networkplumber.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] mbuf: record mbuf operations history
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 23:07:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17796909.geO5KgaWL5@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F654C1@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

13/10/2025 22:08, Morten Brørup:
> > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > Sent: Monday, 13 October 2025 20.39
> > 
> > 02/10/2025 09:37, Morten Brørup:
> > > > +RTE_EXPORT_EXPERIMENTAL_SYMBOL(rte_mbuf_history_dump_mempool,
> > 25.11)
> > > > +void rte_mbuf_history_dump_mempool(FILE *f, struct rte_mempool
> > *mp)
> > > > +{
> > > > +#if !RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_DEBUG
> > > > +      RTE_SET_USED(f);
> > > > +      RTE_SET_USED(mp);
> > > > +      MBUF_LOG(INFO, "mbuf history recorder is not enabled");
> > > > +#else
> > > > +      if (f == NULL) {
> > > > +              MBUF_LOG(ERR, "Invalid mbuf dump file.");
> > > > +              return;
> > > > +      }
> > > > +      if (mp == NULL) {
> > > > +              fprintf(f, "ERROR: Invalid mempool pointer\n");
> > >
> > > Should be MBUF_LOG(ERR, ...), not fprintf().
> > >
> > > > +              return;
> > > > +      }
> > > > +      if (rte_mbuf_history_field_offset < 0) {
> > > > +              fprintf(f, "WARNING: mbuf history not initialized.
> > Call
> > > > rte_mbuf_history_init() first.\n");
> > >
> > > Should be MBUF_LOG(ERR, ...), not fprintf().
> > >
> > > > +              return;
> > > > +      }
> > >
> > > Since the type of objects held in a mempool is not identifiable as
> > mbufs, you should check that (mp->elt_size >= sizeof(struct rte_mbuf)).
> > Imagine some non-mbuf mempool holding 64 byte sized objects, and
> > rte_mbuf_history_field_offset being in the second cache line.
> 
> <feature creep>
> You can check more properties of the mempool to identify mbuf mempools, seeking inspiration from the RTE_ASSERT()'s in rte_pktmbuf_pool_init():
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.07/source/lib/mbuf/rte_mbuf.c#L35
> </feature creep>

I'm not sure what we can use to identify mbuf pools.
Anyway I suggest doing such optimization later.

> > > You might want to log an error if called directly, and silently skip
> > of called from rte_mbuf_history_dump_all(), so suggest adding a wrapper
> > when calling this function through rte_mempool_walk().
> > 
> > Yes good idea.
> > 
> > > > +      mbuf_history_get_stats(mp, f);
> > > > +#endif
> > > > +}
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > +/**
> > > > + * Mark an mbuf with a history event.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * @param m
> > > > + *   Pointer to the mbuf.
> > > > + * @param op
> > > > + *   The operation to record.
> > > > + */
> > > > +static inline void rte_mbuf_history_mark(struct rte_mbuf *m,
> > uint32_t
> > > > op)
> > > > +{
> > > > +#if !RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_DEBUG
> > > > +      RTE_SET_USED(m);
> > > > +      RTE_SET_USED(op);
> > > > +#else
> > > > +      RTE_ASSERT(rte_mbuf_history_field_offset >= 0);
> > > > +      RTE_ASSERT(op < RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_OP_MAX);
> > > > +      if (unlikely (m == NULL))
> > > > +              return;
> > > > +
> > > > +      rte_mbuf_history_t *history_field = RTE_MBUF_DYNFIELD(m,
> > > > +                      rte_mbuf_history_field_offset,
> > rte_mbuf_history_t *);
> > > > +      uint64_t history = rte_atomic_load_explicit(history_field,
> > > > rte_memory_order_acquire);
> > > > +      history = (history << RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_BITS) | op;
> > > > +      rte_atomic_store_explicit(history_field, history,
> > > > rte_memory_order_release);
> > >
> > > This is not thread safe.
> > > Some other thread can race to update history_field after this thread
> > loads it, so when this tread stores the updated history, the other
> > thread's history update is overwritten and lost.
> > 
> > You're right.
> > I suppose this change was to align with the atomic read operation
> > done in the "get" function.
> > 
> > > To make it thread safe, you must use a CAS operation and start over
> > if it failed.
> > 
> > By "failed", you mean if the previous value returned by the CAS
> > operation
> > is different of what we used earlier to build our new value?
> > 
> > I suggest this:
> > 
> >     rte_mbuf_history_t *history_field = RTE_MBUF_DYNFIELD(m,
> >             rte_mbuf_history_field_offset, rte_mbuf_history_t *);
> >     uint64_t old_history = rte_atomic_load_explicit(history_field,
> >             rte_memory_order_acquire);
> >     uint64_t new_history;
> >     do {
> >         new_history = (old_history << RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_BITS) | op;
> >     } while (!rte_atomic_compare_exchange_weak_explicit(history_field,
> >             &old_history, new_history,
> >             rte_memory_order_release, rte_memory_order_relaxed));
> 
> Yes, that was the thread safety concept I was looking for.
> 
> Small bugfix: rte_memory_order_relaxed should be rte_memory_order_acquire (when the CAS comparison fails), like when first loading old_history with rte_atomic_load_explicit().

OK thanks.

> Also, consider adding unlikely: "do {...} while (unlikely(!CAS(...)));".

unlikely because it happens only for cloned mbufs?



  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-16  7:29 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce mempool object new debug capabilities Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mempool: record mempool objects operations history Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] drivers: add mempool history compilation flag Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] net/mlx5: mark an operation in mempool object's history Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] app/testpmd: add testpmd command to dump mempool history Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] usertool: add a script to parse mempool history dump Shani Peretz
2025-06-16 15:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce mempool object new debug capabilities Stephen Hemminger
2025-06-19 12:57   ` Morten Brørup
2025-07-07  5:46     ` Shani Peretz
2025-07-07  5:45   ` Shani Peretz
2025-07-07 12:10     ` Morten Brørup
2025-07-19 14:39       ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-25 11:27         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2025-09-01 15:34           ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-16 15:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] add mbuf " Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 21:17     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-09-16 21:33       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-17  1:22         ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-17 14:46     ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-19  9:14       ` Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] net/mlx5: mark an operation in mbuf's history Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 21:14     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-09-16 21:31       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-17 15:04         ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] app/testpmd: add testpmd command to dump mbuf history Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] usertool: add a script to parse mbuf history dump Shani Peretz
2025-09-30 23:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-01  0:12     ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-02  7:37     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-02 21:23       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 18:39       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 20:08         ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-13 21:07           ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2025-10-14 10:04             ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-02  7:44     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-13 15:32       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-01  8:20     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-13 15:31       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-02  8:07     ` Robin Jarry
2025-10-13 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] doc: explain debug options in mbuf guide Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] app/testpmd: use space separator in dump commands Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 1/7] doc: explain debug options in mbuf guide Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  8:47     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  9:59     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 4/7] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 5/7] app/testpmd: use space separator in dump commands Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 6/7] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  8:45     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14  9:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  9:48         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-14  9:55           ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 7/7] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon

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