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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Liang, Cunming" <cunming.liang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org" <dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:46:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141222094603.GA1768@bricha3-MOBL3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188EF9F-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 01:51:27AM +0000, Liang, Cunming wrote:
> ...
> > I'm conflicted on this one. However, I think far more applications would be
> > broken
> > to start having to use thread_id in place of an lcore_id than would be broken
> > by having the lcore_id no longer actually correspond to a core.
> > I'm actually struggling to come up with a large number of scenarios where it's
> > important to an app to determine the cpu it's running on, compared to the large
> > number of cases where you need to have a data-structure per thread. In DPDK
> > libs
> > alone, you see this assumption that lcore_id == thread_id a large number of
> > times.
> > 
> > Despite the slight logical inconsistency, I think it's better to avoid introducing
> > a thread-id and continue having lcore_id representing a unique thread.
> > 
> > /Bruce
> 
> Ok, I understand it. 
> I list the implicit meaning if using lcore_id representing the unique thread.
> 1). When lcore_id less than RTE_MAX_LCORE, it still represents the logical core id.
> 2). When lcore_id large equal than RTE_MAX_LCORE, it represents an unique id for thread.
> 3). Most of APIs(except rte_lcore_id()) in rte_lcore.h suggest to be used only in CASE 1)
> 4). rte_lcore_id() can be used in CASE 2), but the return value no matter represent a logical core id.
> 
> If most of us feel it's acceptable, I'll prepare for the RFC v2 base on this conclusion.
> 
> /Cunming

Sorry, I don't like that suggestion either, as having lcore_id values greater
than RTE_MAX_LCORE is terrible, as how will people know how to dimension arrays
to be indexes by lcore id? Given the choice, if we are not going to just use
lcore_id as a generic thread id, which is always between 0 and RTE_MAX_LCORE
we can look to define a new thread_id variable to hold that. However, it should
have a bounded range.
>From an ease-of-porting perspective, I still think that the simplest option is to
use the existing lcore_id and accept the fact that it's now a thread id rather
than an actual physical lcore. Question is, is would that cause us lots of issues
in the future?

/Bruce

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-22  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-11  2:04 [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore Cunming Liang
     [not found] ` <1418263490-21088-1-git-send-email-cunming.liang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] eal: add linear thread id as pthread-local variable Cunming Liang
2014-12-16  7:00     ` Qiu, Michael
     [not found]     ` <1418263490-21088-2-git-send-email-cunming.liang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-22 19:02       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
     [not found]         ` <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB977258213C900A-kPTMFJFq+rGvNW/NfzhIbrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-23  9:56           ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] mempool: use linear-tid as mempool cache index Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] ring: use linear-tid as ring debug stats index Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] eal: add simple API for multi-pthread Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] testpmd: support multi-pthread mode Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sample: add new sample for multi-pthread Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:04   ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] eal: macro for cpuset w/ or w/o CPU_ALLOC Cunming Liang
2014-12-11  2:54   ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] support multi-phtread per lcore Jayakumar, Muthurajan
2014-12-11  9:56   ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
     [not found]     ` <7C4248CAE043B144B1CD242D275626532FE15298-kPTMFJFq+rGvNW/NfzhIbrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12  5:44       ` Liang, Cunming
     [not found]         ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188B881-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 11:10           ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
     [not found]             ` <7C4248CAE043B144B1CD242D275626532FE232BA-kPTMFJFq+rGvNW/NfzhIbrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 11:53               ` Liang, Cunming
     [not found]                 ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188C928-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-18 12:20                   ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
     [not found]                     ` <7C4248CAE043B144B1CD242D275626532FE27C3B-kPTMFJFq+rGvNW/NfzhIbrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-18 14:32                       ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-18 15:11                         ` Olivier MATZ
     [not found]                           ` <5492EE90.4040502-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-18 16:04                             ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-18 16:15                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-12-19  1:28                       ` Liang, Cunming
     [not found]                         ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188E454-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-19 10:03                           ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-22  1:51                             ` Liang, Cunming
     [not found]                               ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188EF9F-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-22  9:46                                 ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2014-12-22 10:01                                   ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
     [not found]                                     ` <7C4248CAE043B144B1CD242D275626532FE2908C-kPTMFJFq+rGvNW/NfzhIbrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-23  9:45                                       ` Liang, Cunming
2014-12-22 18:28                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-12-23  9:19                                     ` Walukiewicz, Miroslaw
     [not found]                                       ` <7C4248CAE043B144B1CD242D275626532FE29694-kPTMFJFq+rGvNW/NfzhIbrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-23  9:23                                         ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-23  9:51                                     ` Liang, Cunming
     [not found]                                       ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA31188F9AD-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-08 17:05                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
     [not found]                                           ` <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB977258213D39EA-pww93C2UFcwu0RiL9chJVbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-08 17:23                                             ` Richardson, Bruce
     [not found]                                               ` <59AF69C657FD0841A61C55336867B5B034484ED2-kPTMFJFq+rELt2AQoY/u9bfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09  9:51                                                 ` Liang, Cunming
2015-01-09  9:40                                             ` Liang, Cunming
     [not found]                                               ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA311894B99-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 11:52                                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-09  9:45                                             ` Liang, Cunming

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