From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: <scott.k.mitch1@gmail.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2026 08:11:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260206081120.693af79e@phoenix.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F656F0@smartserver.smartshare.dk>
On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 15:36:37 +0100
Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> > From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> > Sent: Friday, 6 February 2026 02.49
> >
> > Why are the header structures marked packed, that is bogus, BSD and
> > Linux don't do it.
>
> They have been packed since the first public release in 2013 [1].
>
> I guess it's because the IP and TCP headers contain 4-byte fields, which make those structures 4-byte aligned; but since the IP header follows a 14 byte Ethernet header (without the magic 2-byte pre-padding done by the kernel), the instances of the IP header are not 4-byte aligned, but 2-byte aligned. Marking them packed is a way of stripping the alignment.
>
> BTW, the IPv4 header was bumped (from no alignment) to 2-byte alignment with patch [2].
>
> [1]: https://github.com/DPDK/dpdk/commit/af75078fece3615088e561357c1e97603e43a5fe#diff-620c2b2031359304a7f26328a52035c9f8ddf722b9280f957047dcb81467777f
> [2]: https://github.com/DPDK/dpdk/commit/c14fba68edfa4aeba7c0dfb5dbc3b4f23affbb81
>
>
> > Windows probably does
>
> Yes, probably.
> The Microsoft compiler is more pedantic (leading to fewer bugs), and many of those structures should formally be packed (or more correctly: unaligned).
>
> > but Windows code seems to love packed even when
> > it is not necessary.
>
> I guess packing (without thinking about the need for it) has become a bad habit for some Windows programmers.
>
Making structure packed (in the past) made code slower on some architectures because
it required generating multiple load/store operations.
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-27 18:13 [PATCH v1 0/3] net/af_packet: correctness fixes and improvements scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:13 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 1:35 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-27 18:13 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] net/af_packet: RX/TX rte_memcpy, bulk free, prefetch scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 1:23 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 9:49 ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-28 15:37 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 16:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-27 18:13 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] net/af_packet: software checksum and tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-27 18:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 7:05 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 17:36 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 18:59 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-27 20:45 ` [REVIEW] " Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 16:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 18:00 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 18:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX unlikely, bulk free, prefetch scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] net/af_packet: software checksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 18:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-28 19:08 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 19:10 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 19:10 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 19:10 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX unlikely, bulk free, prefetch scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-29 1:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02 5:29 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-28 19:10 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 19:10 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] net/af_packet: software checksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-01-28 21:57 ` [REVIEW] " Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02 7:55 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-02 16:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX bulk free, unlikely hint scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] net/af_packet: add software checksum offload support scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-02 17:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-02 18:47 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-03 6:41 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-03 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 " scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX bulk free, unlikely hint scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03 7:07 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] net/af_packet: add software checksum offload support scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-03 8:20 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-03 14:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-04 2:59 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-03 14:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-04 1:39 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-05 21:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-06 1:11 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06 1:11 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] net/af_packet: fix thread safety and frame calculations scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06 1:11 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] net/af_packet: RX/TX bulk free, unlikely hint scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06 1:11 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] net/af_packet: tx poll control scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06 1:11 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] net/af_packet: add software checksum offload support scott.k.mitch1
2026-02-06 1:49 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] af_packet correctness, performance, cksum Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-06 4:45 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-02-06 14:36 ` Morten Brørup
2026-02-06 16:11 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
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