From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
Robin Jarry <rjarry@redhat.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 5/5] eal: configure initial device probing
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 14:10:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260227141045.236af55b@phoenix.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaGhdEEgxiA4Z33A@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 13:51:48 +0000
Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 02:43:46PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > 26/02/2026 17:50, Robin Jarry:
> > > David Marchand, Feb 26, 2026 at 17:20:
> > > > Some applications use port hotplug as their primary way for using DPDK
> > > > resources.
> > > > Having a systematic device probing is a problem when not all available
> > > > resources will be used by the application, as such applications won't set
> > > > an explicit allow list at startup.
> > > >
> > > > This is the case for OVS on systems with multiple mlx5 devices:
> > > > one device can be used by the kernel while the other(s) are used by DPDK.
> > > > In such a setup, the kernel used device may get reconfigured in
> > > > unexpected ways and trigger issues like the one described by Kevin
> > > > not so long ago in bugzilla 1873.
> > > >
> > > > Add an EAL option so that we can change the default behavior from
> > > > block-listing to allow-listing.
> > [...]
> > > > + const char * const argv29[] = {prgname, prefix, mp_flag, eal_debug_logs,
> > > > + "--allow-explicitly" };
> > >
> > > I am not convinced by the option name. What do you think of:
> > >
> > > --no-autoprobe
> > >
> > > That would match the Linux sriov_drivers_autoprobe sysfs.
> >
> > The name --no-autoprobe is better indeed.
> >
> > The exact effect of this option is to disable initial probing
> > of devices on all buses (except vdev).
> > Another name could be --no-initial-probing
> >
> > I think we should add the opposite option as well
> > to allow changing the default mode later.
> > For such an option, --autoprobe looks better than --initial-probing.
> >
> > Other opinions?
> >
> >
> > [...]
> > > Depending on what option name we settle on, could you add a short flag
> > > too? E.g.:
> > >
> > > BOOL_ARG("--no-autoprobe", "-N", "Disable automatic probing of non-blocked devices", no_autoprobe)
> > >
> > > Or:
> > >
> > > BOOL_ARG("--no-autoprobe", "-P", "Disable automatic probing of non-blocked devices", no_autoprobe)
> >
> > I don't see the benefit of a short flag.
> > It makes reading commands less obvious.
> >
> I actually would prefer to have a short option available, and I'd really
> like that short option to be "-A" since it serves as the perfect addition
> to the "-a" flag to specify devices to probe.
>
> Based on that, I would look for long options which allow "-A" as the short
> version for example:
>
> --allowlisted-devs-only
>
> /Bruce
Also if -b or --block-list become a no op with --no-autoprobe. So it should be a warning?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-27 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 11:29 [RFC 1/2] devtools: check packet forwarding in null test David Marchand
2026-02-25 11:29 ` [RFC 2/2] eal: configure initial device probing David Marchand
2026-02-25 12:09 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-25 17:53 ` David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:20 ` [RFC v2 0/5] Rework " David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:20 ` [RFC v2 1/5] devtools: check packet forwarding in null test David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:35 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-26 16:20 ` [RFC v2 2/5] bus/fslmc: fix bus cleanup David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:20 ` [RFC v2 3/5] drivers/bus: require probe function for NXP drivers David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:24 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-26 16:20 ` [RFC v2 4/5] bus: factorize device selection David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-27 14:17 ` David Marchand
2026-02-27 14:33 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-26 16:20 ` [RFC v2 5/5] eal: configure initial device probing David Marchand
2026-02-26 16:34 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-26 16:50 ` Robin Jarry
2026-02-27 13:43 ` Thomas Monjalon
2026-02-27 13:51 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-02-27 22:10 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2026-03-02 9:02 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-03-02 11:08 ` Morten Brørup
2026-03-02 11:13 ` David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 0/7] Rework " David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 1/7] devtools: check packet forwarding in null test David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 2/7] bus/fslmc: fix bus cleanup David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 3/7] drivers/bus: require probe function for NXP drivers David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 4/7] drivers: cleanup devargs lookup in bus scan David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:56 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 5/7] bus: factorize devargs lookup David Marchand
2026-03-05 17:06 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-03-05 17:10 ` David Marchand
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 6/7] bus: factorize device selection David Marchand
2026-03-05 17:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-03-09 9:50 ` David Marchand
2026-03-07 20:59 ` Robin Jarry
2026-03-05 16:45 ` [RFC v3 7/7] eal: configure initial device probing David Marchand
2026-03-05 17:33 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-03-07 21:05 ` Robin Jarry
2026-03-06 8:26 ` [RFC v3 0/7] Rework " David Marchand
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