From: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Zhang,
Helin" <helin.zhang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Yerden Zhumabekov <e_zhumabekov-8EHiFRVJVgQ@public.gmane.org>,
"Richardson,
Bruce" <bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org"
<dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/13] mbuf: add packet_type field
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 10:02:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <540EB428.9060706@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F35DEAC7BCE34641BA9FAC6BCA4A12E70A784E49-0J0gbvR4kTg/UvCtAeCM4rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
Hello,
On 09/09/2014 05:59 AM, Zhang, Helin wrote:
> It is a common field which i40e PMD will use it to store the 'packet type ID'. i40e
> hardware can recognize more than a hundred of packet types of received packets,
> this is quite useful for upper layer stack or application. So this field is quite useful
> and will be filled by PMD.
> In ixgbe/igb, it has less than 10 packet types which are marked in offload flags. From
> now on, it would be better to have new field here to put the hardware offloaded
> packet type in and it could be used for future NICs.
>
>>
>> I'm not saying this field is useless. But even if it's useful for some applications
>> like yours, it does not mean that it should go in the generic mbuf structure.
>>
>> Also, for a new field, we should define who is in charge of filling it.
>> Is is the driver? Does it mean that all drivers have to be modified to fill it? Or is
>> it just a placeholder for applications? In this case, shouldn't we use
>> application-specific metadata? In the other direction (TX), we would also need
>> to define if this field must be filled by the application before transmitting a mbuf
>> to a driver.
> Yes, PMD will fill it. I40e PMD will be the first one, ixgbe/igb can be kept as it is, or
> modified to be consistent. It is used for RX side only, and for TX side, it can be
> investigated to see if it can be used also. I think some new features in development
> can think of that.
> Anyway, it is a quite useful field for i40e and future generation of NICs.
To me, having the support in a hardware for that feature is not a
sufficient reason for adding this field. There are many hardware
features that will never be integrated in dpdk.
This first version of the patch:
- just adds a field that is not used by any code, so it is useless.
At least testpmd or an application example should show how to
use it.
- does not describe what enhancement is provided by adding the
field (performance? in this case, numbers + use case would help
to convince people).
- does not describe what can be the content of the field. Is it
a protocol number?
- does not explain if all drivers must fill this field. If yes,
the patch has to update all drivers. If not, something must be
done to mark the packet field as unknown by default.
Regards,
Olivier
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2014-09-03 15:49 [PATCH 00/13] Mbuf Structure Rework, part 2 Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 01/13] mbuf: replace data pointer by an offset Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-08 9:52 ` Olivier MATZ
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2014-09-08 9:55 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 02/13] mbuf: reorder fields by time of use Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1409759378-10113-3-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-08 10:17 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 03/13] mbuf: add packet_type field Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-08 10:17 ` Olivier MATZ
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2014-09-08 10:33 ` Yerden Zhumabekov
[not found] ` <540D85E0.4030203-8EHiFRVJVgQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-08 11:17 ` Olivier MATZ
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2014-09-09 3:57 ` Liu, Jijiang
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2014-09-09 3:59 ` Zhang, Helin
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2014-09-09 8:02 ` Olivier MATZ [this message]
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2014-09-09 8:45 ` Zhang, Helin
2014-09-09 9:47 ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-09 15:05 ` Jim Thompson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 04/13] mbuf: expand ol_flags field to 64-bits Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-08 10:25 ` Olivier MATZ
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2014-09-09 9:00 ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 05/13] mbuf: introduce a flag to indicate a control mbuf Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1409759378-10113-6-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-08 11:53 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 06/13] mbuf: minor changes for readability Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1409759378-10113-7-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-08 12:03 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 07/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the mbuf metadata Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1409759378-10113-8-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-08 12:05 ` Olivier MATZ
[not found] ` <540D9B95.3020504-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 9:01 ` Richardson, Bruce
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2014-09-12 16:56 ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
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2014-09-12 21:02 ` Olivier MATZ
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2014-09-16 20:07 ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
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2014-09-16 22:06 ` Ramia, Kannan Babu
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2014-09-17 10:31 ` Richardson, Bruce
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2014-09-17 14:01 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-09-10 15:09 ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-10 15:31 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 08/13] mbuf: add named points inside the mbuf structure Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-08 12:08 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 09/13] ixgbe: rework vector pmd following mbuf changes Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 10/13] mbuf: split mbuf across two cache lines Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1409759378-10113-11-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-08 12:10 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 11/13] mbuf: move l2_len and l3_len to second cache line Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-04 5:08 ` Yerden Zhumabekov
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2014-09-04 11:00 ` Yerden Zhumabekov
[not found] ` <5408463C.8040805-8EHiFRVJVgQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-04 11:55 ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 12/13] ixgbe: Fix perf regression due to moved pool ptr Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [PATCH 13/13] ixgbe: Improve slow-path perf: vector scattered RX Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Mbuf Structure Rework, part 2 Bruce Richardson
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2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] mbuf: replace data pointer by an offset Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] mbuf: reorder fields by time of use Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1410441347-22840-3-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 7:11 ` Liu, Jijiang
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2014-09-15 8:19 ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] mbuf: expand ol_flags field to 64-bits Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] mbuf: introduce a flag to indicate a control mbuf Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] mbuf: minor changes for readability Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the mbuf metadata Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] mbuf: move metadata macros to rte_port library Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] mbuf: add named points inside the mbuf structure Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] ixgbe: rework vector pmd following mbuf changes Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] mbuf: split mbuf across two cache lines Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] mbuf: move l2_len and l3_len to second cache line Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] ixgbe: Fix perf regression due to moved pool ptr Bruce Richardson
[not found] ` <1410441347-22840-13-git-send-email-bruce.richardson-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 16:20 ` [PATCH v3 " Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] ixgbe: Improve slow-path perf: vector scattered RX Bruce Richardson
2014-09-17 22:35 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Mbuf Structure Rework, part 2 Thomas Monjalon
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