Re: GitHub sandbox for the DPDK community

[Marc Sune <marc.sune-kpkqNMk1I7M@public.gmane.org>]

On 01/05/15 20:17, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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> On 5/1/15, 1:09 PM, "Stephen Hemminger" <stephen-OTpzqLSitTUnbdJkjeBofR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 1 May 2015 15:56:32 +0000
>> "Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
>>> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
>>>
>>> I believe the DPDK community can benefit from being at a very well know
>>> world wide site. GitHub seems to have the most eyes of any of the open
>>> source Git repos today and it appears they have more then twice as many
>>> developers. GitHub has a number of features I see as some good
>>> additions to
>>> our community using the GitHub organization account type.
>>>
>>> The cost for an organization account is $0 as long as we do not need
>>> more
>>> then 5 private repos.

Minor issue:

https://github.com/pricing

Private repos for both users and organizations are not for free in
github (they've never been afaik). They are in bitbucket, up to 5
contributors.

But I don't get how private repositories have any influence in this
discussion. Private repositories will be owned by companies and not DPDK
as a community anyway.

marc

>>>  10 private repos is $25/month and had other plans
>>> for more. I do not see us needing more then 5 private repos today and
>>> the
>>> only reason I can see having a private repo is to do some prep work on
>>> the
>>> repo before making public. Every contributor would need to create a
>>> GitHub
>>> personal account, which is at no cost unless you need more then 5
>>> private
>>> repos. In both accounts you can have unlimited public repos.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://help.github.com/articles/where-can-i-find-open-source-projects-to
>>> -w
>>> ork-on/
>>>
>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/using-git-open-source-projects/
>>>
>>> - Adding more committers can lead to a security problems for 6Wind (I
>>> assume).
>>> - 6Wind appearing to own DPDK.org is not a good message to the
>>> community.
>>>   - Not assuming 6Wind¹s dpdk.org site will disappear only where the
>>> community stores the master repos and how the community interacts with
>>> the
>>> master.
>>> - Permission and access levels in dpdk.org is only one level and we can
>>> benefit from having 4 levels and teams as well.
>>> - The patch process today suffers from timely reviews, which will not be
>>> fixed by moving.
>>>   - GitHub has a per pull request discussions area, which gives a clean
>>> way to review all discussions on a specific change.
>>>     - The current patch model is clone/modify/commit/send patch set
>>>     - The model with GitHub is fork on GitHub/modify/commit/send pull
>>> request
>>> - The patchwork web site is reasonable, but has some draw backs in
>>> maintaining the site.
>>>   - GitHub manages the patches via pull requests and can be easily seen
>>> via a web browser.
>>>   - The down side is you do have to use a web browser to do some work,
>>> but
>>> the bulk of the everyday work would be done as it is today.
>>>     - I think we all have a web browser now :-)
>>> - GitHub has team support and gives a group better control plus
>>> collaboration is much easier as we have a external location to work.
>>>   - Most companies have some pretty high security level and being to
>>> collaborate between two or more companies is very difficult if one
>>> company
>>> is hosting the repo behind a firewall.
>>>   - Using GitHub and teams would make collaboration a lot easier or
>>> collaboration between two or more user accounts as well.
>>> - GitHub has a Web Page system, which can be customized for the
>>> community
>>> needs via a public or private repo.
>>> - We still need a dpdk.org email list I believe as I did not find one at
>>> GitHub.
>>>   - We can also forward GitHub emails to the list.
>>>   - I believe you can reply to an email from GitHub and the email will
>>> get
>>> appended to the discussion thread.
>>>
>> In my experience the github pull model causes less review, not more.
>> It only works if maintainers are motivated to do this as their full time
>> job.
>>
>> With email, the patches are right in front of developers and easier to
>> quote
>> for review comments.
> We are not getting the eyes on the review today, which means to me it will
> not matter if we move to GitHub method in the future.
>
> Personally I am able to see the differences with the GitHub display and
> helps me see what is really happening. The emails are too flat and then
> they can indent forever or someones email client (like mine) screws up the
> format. With the GitHub method is will be exactly the same for everyone.
>