From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Avi Kivity Subject: Re: Having troubles binding an SR-IOV VF to uio_pci_generic on Amazon instance Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:55:15 +0300 Message-ID: <560D1113.7080202@scylladb.com> References: <20150930204016.GA29975@redhat.com> <20151001113828-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> <560CF44A.60102@scylladb.com> <20151001120027-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> <560CFB66.5050904@scylladb.com> <20151001123335-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> <560D028A.8050509@scylladb.com> <20151001131517-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> <560D09E4.4060603@scylladb.com> <560D0A0D.8030604@scylladb.com> <20151001133906-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Return-path: Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B86E8D8D for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wiclk2 with SMTP id lk2so27161114wic.0 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:55:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151001133906-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org Sender: "dev" On 10/01/2015 01:44 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 01:25:17PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote: >> Why use a VF on a non-virtualized system? > 1. So a userspace bug does not destroy your hardware > (PFs generally assume trusted non-buggy drivers, VFs > generally don't). People who use dpdk trust their drivers (those drivers are the reason for the system to exist in the first place). > 2. So you can use a PF or another VF for regular networking. This is valid, but usually those systems have a separate management network. Unfortunately VFs limit the number of queues you can expose, making them less performant than PFs. The "bifurcated drivers" were meant as a way of enabling this functionality without resorting to VFs, but it seems they are stalled. > 3. So you can manage this system, to some level. > Again existing practice doesn't follow this.