From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thomas Monjalon Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/9] librte_mbuf:the rte_mbuf structure changes Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:35:15 +0100 Message-ID: <5619154.Lqn3vQe6j1@xps13> References: <1413881168-20239-1-git-send-email-jijiang.liu@intel.com> <6349776.LhCYQBaBlF@xps13> <1ED644BD7E0A5F4091CF203DAFB8E4CC01D9A425@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Cc: dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org To: "Liu, Jijiang" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1ED644BD7E0A5F4091CF203DAFB8E4CC01D9A425-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org> List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org Sender: "dev" 2014-11-13 11:24, Liu, Jijiang: > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] > > 2014-11-13 03:17, Liu, Jijiang: > > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] > > > > 2014-10-23 02:23, Zhang, Helin: > > > > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Thomas > > > > > Monjalon > > > > > > 2014-10-21 14:14, Liu, Jijiang: > > > > > > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] > > > > > > > > 2014-10-21 16:46, Jijiang Liu: > > > > > > > > > + uint16_t packet_type; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not name it "l2_type"? > > > > > > > > > > 'packet_type' is for storing the hardware identified packet type > > > > > upon different layers of protocols (l2, l3, l4, ...). > > > > > It is quite useful for user application or middle layer software > > > > > stacks, it can know what the packet type is without checking the > > > > > packet too > > > > much by software. > > > > > Actually ixgbe already has packet types (less than 10), which is > > > > > transcoded into > > > > 'ol_flags'. > > > > > For i40e, the packet type can represent about 256 types of packet, > > > > > 'ol_flags' does not have enough bits for it anymore. So put the > > > > > i40e packet types > > > > into mbuf would be better. > > > > > Also this field can be used for NON-Intel NICs, I think there must > > > > > be the similar concepts of other NICs. And 16 bits 'packet_type' > > > > > has severl > > > > reserved bits for future and NON-Intel NICs. > > > > > > > > Thanks Helin, that's the best description of packet_type I've seen so far. > > > > It's not so clear in the commit log: > > > > http://dpdk.org/browse/dpdk/commit/?id=73b7d59cf4f6faf > > > > > > > > > > > In datasheet, this term is called packet type(s). > > > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly the point I want you really understand! > > > > > > This is a field in generic mbuf structure, so your datasheet has no value here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally , I think packet type is more clear what meaning of this field is . > > > > > > > > > > > > You cannot add an API field without knowing what will be its generic meaning. > > > > > > Please think about it and describe its scope. > > > > > > > > I integrated this patch with the VXLAN patchset in the hope that > > > > you'll improve the situation afterwards. > > > > This is the answer you recently gave to Olivier: > > > > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2014-November/007599.html > > > > " > > > > Regarding adding a packet_type in mbuf, we ever had a lot of > > > > discussions as follows: > > > > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2014-October/007027.html > > > > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2014-September/005240.html > > > > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2014-September/005241.html > > > > http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2014-September/005274.html > > > > " > > > > > > > > To sum up the situation: > > > > - We don't know what are the possible values of packet_type > > > > - It's only filled by i40e, while other drivers use ol_flags > > > > - There is no special value "unknown" which should be set by drivers > > > > not supporting this feature. > > > > - Its only usage is to print a decimal value in > > > > app/test-pmd/rxonly.c > > > > > > > > It's now clear that nobody cares about this part of the API. > > > > So I'm going to remove packet_type from mbuf. > > > > I don't want to keep something that we don't know how to use, that > > > > is not consistent across drivers, and that overlap another API part (ol_flags). > > > > > > The packet type in 40e is very important for user, using packet type > > > can help to speed up packet analysis/identification in their > > > application, especially tunneling packet format. > > > Now I'm working on implementing packet type definition in rte_ethdev.h > > > file and translation table in i40e, which is almost done. > > > The packet type definition in in rte_ethdev.h file like below. > > > /* > > > * Ethernet packet type > > > */ > > > enum rte_eth_ptype { > > > /* undefined packet type, means HW can't recognise it */ > > > RTE_PTYPE_UNDEF = 0, > > > ... > > > > > > /* IPv4 --> GRE/Teredo/VXLAN --> MAC --> IPv4 */ > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv4FRAG_PAY3, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv4_PAY3, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv4_UDP_PAY4, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv4_TCP_PAY4, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv4_SCTP_PAY4, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv4_ICMP_PAY4, > > > > > > /* IPv4 --> GRE/Teredo/VXLAN --> MAC --> IPv6 */ > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv6FRAG_PAY3 > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv6_PAY3, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv6_UDP_PAY4, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv6_TCP_PAY4, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv6_SCTP_PAY4, > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MAC_IPv6_ICMP_PAY4, > > > > > > /* IPv4 --> GRE/Teredo/VXLAN --> MAC/VLAN */ > > > RTE_PTYPE_IPv4_GRENAT_MACVLAN_PAY3, > > > ... > > > } > > > > OK, it seems well abstracted. > > I think the last part of these names (PAY3/PAY4) is useless. > > > > When this patch for API and i40e will be ready? > > I'd prefer fixing the API instead of removing it. > > If needed, next week, I can send a patch for this. > > > > Yes, we don't use packet type in many places now, which doesn't mean > > > we don't use it in the future (when supporting another tunneling packet). > > > > > > It is ok for me if you want to remove the packet_type filed in mbuf, > > > but we will send a separate patch set for introducing packet type in > > > the future, which includes 1g/10/40g PMD changes. > > > > When the patches for igb/ixgbe will be ready? > > We need some time to investigate this for igb/ixgbe, probably some > example codes and test application codes need to changed. > You can assume that it cannot be done in DPDK1.8. > > So here are my three suggestions: > > 1. keep packet_type in mbuf and wait for all the igb/ixgb/i40e changes > done in DPDK2.0. Now, I don't send a separate patch set for it. > 2. keep packet_type in mbuf, I just send i40e patch set for this in > DPDK1.8. In DPDK2.0, we will send a patch set for igb/ixgbe. > 3. It can be removed now, and we will send a separate patch set for > introducing packet type in the future. Option 2 please :) My main concerns are: - clearly document it - have hardware abstraction Thanks -- Thomas