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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <techboard@dpdk.org>
Subject: RE: mbuf fast-free requirements analysis
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 18:31:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F6565D@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWfL0un-qWa1vGCT@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com>

> From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2026 18.01
> 
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 12:06:38PM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > Executive Summary:
> >
> > My analysis shows that the mbuf library is not a barrier for fast-
> freeing
> > segmented packet mbufs, and thus fast-free of jumbo frames is
> possible.
> >
> >
> > Detailed Analysis:
> >
> > The purpose of the mbuf fast-free Tx optimization is to reduce
> > rte_pktmbuf_free_seg() to something much simpler in the ethdev
> drivers, by
> > eliminating the code path related to indirect mbufs.
> > Optimally, we want to simplify the ethdev driver's function that
> frees the
> > transmitted mbufs, so it can free them directly to their mempool
> without
> > accessing the mbufs themselves.
> >
> > If the driver cannot access the mbuf itself, it cannot determine
> which
> > mempool it belongs to.
> > We don't want the driver to access every mbuf being freed; but if all
> > mbufs of a Tx queue belong to the same mempool, the driver can
> determine
> > which mempool by looking into just one of the mbufs.
> >
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, the mbuf library is not a barrier for fast-
> freeing
> > segmented packet mbufs, and thus fast-free of jumbo frames is
> possible.
> >
> > We need a driver developer to confirm that my suggested approach -
> > resetting the mbuf fields, incl. 'm->nb_segs' and 'm->next', when
> > preparing the Tx descriptor - is viable.
> >
> 
> Just to make sure I understand things correctly here, the suggestion to
> prototype is:
> 
> - When FAST_FREE flag is set:
>   - reset the m->nb_segs and m->next fields (if necessary) when
> accessing
>     the mbuf to write the descriptor
>   - skip calling pre-free seg on cleanup and instead
>   - just free all buffers directly to the mempool
> 
> Is that correct?

Yes.
If this can be done with multi-segment packets, we should be able to eliminate the single-segment requirement to FAST_FREE.
(Unless something in the code that writes the descriptor requires single-segment to be super performant, as I suspected of vectorization.)


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15 11:06 mbuf fast-free requirements analysis Morten Brørup
2025-12-15 11:46 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-14 15:31   ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-14 16:36     ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-14 18:05       ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-15  8:46         ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-15  9:04           ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 11:20     ` [PATCH] net/intel: optimize for fast-free hint Bruce Richardson
2026-01-23 12:05       ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 12:09         ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-23 12:27           ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 12:53             ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-23 13:06               ` Morten Brørup
2026-04-08 13:25       ` [PATCH v2] " Bruce Richardson
2026-04-08 19:27         ` Morten Brørup
2026-01-23 11:33     ` mbuf fast-free requirements analysis Bruce Richardson
2025-12-15 14:41 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-12-15 16:14   ` Morten Brørup
2025-12-19 17:08     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-12-20  7:33       ` Morten Brørup
2025-12-22 15:22         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-12-22 17:11           ` Morten Brørup
2025-12-22 17:43             ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-13 14:48               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-01-13 16:07                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-01-14 17:01 ` Bruce Richardson
2026-01-14 17:31   ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2026-01-14 17:45     ` Bruce Richardson

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